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Vanity: Help Me Understand Why You Don't Believe That We Are Owned by the "Establishment?"
Me ^ | 02/27/2016 | Self

Posted on 02/27/2016 12:18:49 PM PST by Yaelle

All these threads each week go up: why are you actually voting for Trump? Can't anyone explain to me why you, so many of you, hear our heartfelt careful explanations, and never even respond or register that it might be so that our elections are an establishment game?

Isn't it obvious by now that our government is more responsive to a sort of cabal of powerful global entities than to our aged parchment under glass in DC? Our Constitution IS our country. Our representatives all the way up to President (especially President) pretty much ignore it.

For a long time, we, the People have been presented, red, white and blue streamers included, with elections every four years to help us feel a part of the system. But our choices have been covered by this cabal, with bought or controllable candidates on each side of the Uniparty. Sure, we can choose, but only among these. Any true candidate not owned by the uniparty already (or a "sure sale" after the election) is painstakingly removed from the menu by their subservient media.

The media work for whoever controls everything, and it sure isn't a government by, for, and of the people. Do you really think it still is? Part of the reason they don't teach civics in schools any more, not just because they don't want Americans to know about their Gd-given rights, is because students would LAUGH at the lies in our founding documents at this point. How could they not? Clearly we are serfs to a ruling entity at this point, and you cannot argue otherwise.

We haven't had a Presidential candidate feared BY THE RULERS since Ronald Reagan. Right now, the greedy powers that be own Hillary and Rubio, and though it's a long shot for him to win the nom, they believe they can get to and own Cruz as well. They can't get to Trump. His family is independently wealthy and protected. He is not playing along with their lying rule over us, and they are scared and vicious in their attempts to stop him. They also have little sway over Sanders but they figure they will knock him out.

The game they play on little old We, the conservative People is: Stick with your principles. Vote your principles. Find the perfect conservative and vote for him.

It's a useless game. They have the end covered. It is to make us feel good. It doesn't affect their election. Not voting for the guy who might be able to beat back their takeover, who might lead a new generation of people ready to fight rather than just suck at their phony teats, only helps them.

Do you really think that when you die you will be rewarded for voting for a candidate for President who had no chance of winning but clung to a religion, didn't cheat on his spouse, and seemed to match more conservative criteria, over voting for someone to free the country from serfdom to an elite cabal?


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KEYWORDS: cruz; establishment; trump; uniparty
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To: Yaelle
Trump can free us from some of this enslavement.

He can, he might. We just don't know. Most do not go in filthy rich. The White House would be Trump's natural upgrade from real estate to global economy.

61 posted on 02/27/2016 1:09:25 PM PST by cornelis
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To: cornelis

We never know for sure. Justice Roberts? The Bushes? We aren’t given enough information. But I’m going to use all info at hand, I see how we are being used, and I’m going to risk it on Trump because I believe he isn’t doing this just to upgrade his real estate holdings.


62 posted on 02/27/2016 1:11:37 PM PST by Yaelle (We finally have a strong, courageous leader who likes US, the People!)
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To: Yaelle

Not sure I accept your premise. Controlling entity? Who? Donald Trump? He is controlling a lot of sheep right now and he is a liberal.


63 posted on 02/27/2016 1:15:22 PM PST by plain talk
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To: plain talk

Do you think we are living under the constitution? Who is running the place? Is there a theme to the kinds of unconstitutional controls placed on us lately?

Sigh.


64 posted on 02/27/2016 1:17:21 PM PST by Yaelle (We finally have a strong, courageous leader who likes US, the People!)
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To: Yaelle

“Our Constitution IS our country.”.......

That said it all, nothing else needs saying!


65 posted on 02/27/2016 1:18:02 PM PST by DaveA37
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To: Yaelle
I’m going to risk it on Trump.

That's what it would be. The power of the presidency and the Supreme Court mock us every four years with risk.

There are no mistakes in life, some people say. And it's true sometimes you could see it that way). ---Bobby Dylan

66 posted on 02/27/2016 1:20:26 PM PST by cornelis
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To: Yaelle

Could you explain please? I wasn’t a follower of brietbart. Unfortunately. I’ve no doubt he was murdered though.

When I say “final kill” I’m talking about the final takedown of our country by the globalists and I expect many of us will die in the fight, by various means.

It’s hard to imagine why they would want to do this but apparently these people believe very strongly in something. Seems like they want everyone to be “equal”. Everyone but themselves that is.


67 posted on 02/27/2016 1:22:29 PM PST by uncitizen (Investigate Scaliagate!)
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To: Logical me

There is no life or hope but for Trump (Praise his blessed name).


68 posted on 02/27/2016 1:26:27 PM PST by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: Enlightened1

Like the Colussus of Rhodes, Trump (Peace be upon Him) towers above all mortals.


69 posted on 02/27/2016 1:32:12 PM PST by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: cornelis

Which candidate, in your eyes, is NOT a risk?


70 posted on 02/27/2016 1:34:17 PM PST by Yaelle (We finally have a strong, courageous leader who likes US, the People!)
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To: Yaelle

Answering my own question: the current candidate with the least risk, with the HIGHEST predictability, is Hillary Clinton.

So risk isn’t always a bad thing.


71 posted on 02/27/2016 1:35:09 PM PST by Yaelle (We finally have a strong, courageous leader who likes US, the People!)
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To: uncitizen

Kinda makes you think. The republicans gave obumma extended powers that he never even asked for. Maybe they will go scorched earth on us.


72 posted on 02/27/2016 1:35:42 PM PST by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Yaelle
But for how long? Should I be looking for black helicopters?

Only if you are independently wealthy, running for President and promising to expose the pilots. :-)
73 posted on 02/27/2016 1:36:59 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: spacejunkie2001

Yes it is so obvious Trump is selling is soul to the establishment, after all they are fawning all over him . At every opportunity the establishment is propping him up. Dumb Trumps supporters. /SARCASM


74 posted on 02/27/2016 1:38:21 PM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: uncitizen

Oh, your use of the words just reminded me that good people who do see what is happening in this country/world sometimes do end up dead.

I agree with you: the best way for greedy people to control all the other people is to wave socialist theories (communism, progressivism, etc) under their noses like incense and fool them into joining up, with equality for everybody.... Oh, except the elites running the system! Gotta have those, right??

Ironically, the one open socialist on the campaign trail doesn’t want to be an elite controller. Bernie for some strange quirk of brain function actually BELIEVES the incense.


75 posted on 02/27/2016 1:39:49 PM PST by Yaelle (We finally have a strong, courageous leader who likes US, the People!)
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To: Yaelle
We are talking about who is setting a slow burning flame to our Constitution and how the People could attempt to stop it, and why Trump is all we’ve got right now, and you call us Chumps, playing cute mocking games?
I'm an amateur compared to the Trump cultists and their ridiculous graphics and slogans. Just the other day, one of them put up a graphic claiming to show that Trump had a bigger penis than his competitors (now removed by the moderators).

As to your bigger point, what makes you think Trump will do any of the good things he's promising, and none of the bad things that he has believed in most of his life?

Trump himself couldn't distinguish his positions from those of Bernie Sanders. Trump loves Eminent Domain for his parking lots, and restrictions on free-speech for anyone who says something he doesn't like.

He's a fraud. And his fans ignore everything except "I'm gonna build a wall! And it will be Yuuge!"

76 posted on 02/27/2016 1:40:51 PM PST by Johnny B. (Trump is, at heart, a facist.)
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To: Mark

I believe this is attributed to Mark Twain.....

“If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.”


77 posted on 02/27/2016 1:41:38 PM PST by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: GLDNGUN

;) No worries then!


78 posted on 02/27/2016 1:42:16 PM PST by Yaelle (We finally have a strong, courageous leader who likes US, the People!)
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To: Yaelle

Some are less risky. Risky ones are more interesting, more dangerous.


79 posted on 02/27/2016 1:45:36 PM PST by cornelis
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To: Johnny B.

There’s not much room to discuss this with you. You believe he is a fraud. I believe Trump is who he is. He did use the government to get what he wanted. He admits it all the time. He’s hated by the estsblishment and if he only builds that wall, he allows our country to protect its borders. That’s a good thing.


80 posted on 02/27/2016 1:46:18 PM PST by Yaelle (We finally have a strong, courageous leader who likes US, the People!)
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