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Chrysler gear shifters confuse drivers causing crashes, injuries
Globe and Mail ^ | Feb. 8, 2016 | AP

Posted on 02/08/2016 5:22:46 PM PST by rickmichaels

Electronic gear shifters on some newer Fiat Chrysler SUVs and cars are so confusing that drivers have exited the vehicles with the engines running and while they are still in gear, causing crashes and serious injuries, U.S. safety investigators have determined.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, in documents posted during the weekend, has doubled the number of vehicles involved in an investigation of the problem, but it stopped short of seeking a recall. The agency found more than 100 crashes and over a dozen injuries, mostly in Jeep Grand Cherokees.

Agency tests found that operating the centre console shift lever “is not intuitive and provides poor tactile and visual feedback to the driver, increasing the potential for unintended gear selection,” investigators wrote in the documents. They upgraded the probe to an engineering analysis, which is a step closer to a recall. NHTSA will continue to gather information and seek a recall if necessary, a spokesman said.

The investigation could determine just how much auto makers can change the way cars operate when they introduce new technology, and how far they can stray from conventional ways of controlling vehicles that drivers are accustomed to.

(Excerpt) Read more at theglobeandmail.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: automotive; canada; chrysler; fiat; fiatchrysler; italy
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1 posted on 02/08/2016 5:22:46 PM PST by rickmichaels
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To: rickmichaels

Gee . . . “D” for Drive . . . and “R” for Race. How hard can it be?


2 posted on 02/08/2016 5:24:11 PM PST by oldplayer
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To: rickmichaels

Doesn’t anyone actually read an owner’s manual any more?


3 posted on 02/08/2016 5:24:27 PM PST by Farmer Dean
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4 posted on 02/08/2016 5:25:25 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: oldplayer

I think these are like a BMW where the lever doesn’t really move into a detent position, it just contacts switches and you have to watch the indicator to see which mode it’s in.


5 posted on 02/08/2016 5:26:38 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: rickmichaels

This why the push for self-drive cars.


6 posted on 02/08/2016 5:26:43 PM PST by headstamp 2
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To: rickmichaels

Gimmie an old stick shift and I’ll be fine.


7 posted on 02/08/2016 5:26:46 PM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: rickmichaels

Brain Power should always be greater than horsepower when purchasing a modern vehicle.


8 posted on 02/08/2016 5:26:50 PM PST by soycd
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To: Farmer Dean

You’ve got it: the gearshift isn’t confusing, the operators are just %@&! stupid.


9 posted on 02/08/2016 5:27:34 PM PST by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: oldplayer

That’s counterinstupidive.


10 posted on 02/08/2016 5:28:05 PM PST by headstamp 2
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To: nascarnation

Looks pretty intuitive to me.

Or is it like an F-16 side stick controller and doesn’t actually move?


11 posted on 02/08/2016 5:29:42 PM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: rickmichaels

They have had push button transmission before. I forgot who had them in the 50s and 60s but they had similar problems.

Maybe they need to do something like they do with tractor seats where if they are unweighted it shuts off the engine. Maybe they could have one where if it is unweighted or not in park?


12 posted on 02/08/2016 5:29:53 PM PST by rey
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To: rickmichaels

I’ll keep my manual 5 speed. It’s the best anti-theft device there is.


13 posted on 02/08/2016 5:30:53 PM PST by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: nascarnation

Gotta be smarter than the gear lever, I guess. You should see the gear selector on the V6 Acuras. Just a kind of rocker switch.


14 posted on 02/08/2016 5:31:26 PM PST by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: cripplecreek

They say a stick shift is the #1 theft deterrent available.

I know back in the early 80s the US Army decided to go exclusively with automatics because so few recruits knew how to drive manuals and it took too long to train them.


15 posted on 02/08/2016 5:31:29 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: rey

Ramblers had push button transmissions.


16 posted on 02/08/2016 5:31:40 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Get Ready)
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To: Farmer Dean

Maybe you and I are the only ones left who do.


17 posted on 02/08/2016 5:32:59 PM PST by svcw (An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man is a subject)
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To: Farmer Dean

Maybe you and I are the only ones left who do.


18 posted on 02/08/2016 5:33:00 PM PST by svcw (An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man is a subject)
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To: hattend

I’ve not driven a new Jeep so I can’t really comment.

On the BMW, it’s like a rocker switch forward/back.
No actual shift mechanism, just electricals.

So you really have to look at the shift indicator to know which mode it’s in.


19 posted on 02/08/2016 5:34:18 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: headstamp 2

This why the push for government control-drive cars.


20 posted on 02/08/2016 5:34:31 PM PST by Cold Heart
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