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To: Robert DeLong

Cruz had Canadian citizenship because they had birthright citizenship for people born on their soil as a law, not because of who his parents were.

Other countries don’t get to decide our citizenship status. No citizenship law in the world has ever said that you lose your U.S. citizenship at birth if another country happens to give you citizenship at the same time. It’s impossible to express how totally absurd you arguing that is. That would mean if an american and a canadian have a child in the U.S., that you would deny that child citizenship just because Canada also grants the child citizenship because one parent was from Canada. Do you know how ridiculous that is and how much of a legal mess it would create if true? You have to argue the facts. You can’t just make up bizarre laws willy-nilly that have never existed in the world. There is ABSOLUTELY NO test on U.S. citizenship that denies it to you based on having birthright citizenship to another country at the same time.

Likewise, there is absolutely nothing in the Constitution that discussed parents being out of the country on military service. If you’re taking later laws into account, then we can all agree Ted Cruz is natural-born, because the laws absolutely gave him U.S. citizen at birth.


55 posted on 02/06/2016 2:23:16 AM PST by JediJones (Marco Rubio: When the Establishment Says Jump, He Asks How High?)
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To: JediJones

Pure Cruz juice! You treat the Constitution just like Cruz does.


56 posted on 02/06/2016 2:25:17 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: JediJones
because the laws absolutely gave him U.S. citizen at birth.

Absolutely, I agree. Ted Cruz is without doubt a U.S. citizen, but he does not qualify as "natural born" due to the fact he was born on foreign soil. The laws were changed to make children born of citizens who were on foreign soil, in service to their country, be eligible to claim "natural born" status. Clearly this does not apply in Ted Cruz's case.

My assertion was not that foreign countries get to decide our citizenship as U.S. citizens, but rather they can bestow citizenship to their country when the child meets their requirements for citizenship. Ted met those requirements in Canada. In Canada's case they do have jus soli as the law of the land. I see no evidence that America, or her Founding Fathers, ever adopted the jus soli as the law of the land. Instead that has evolved from those who wish to make the Constitution a living document and have applied jus soli as if it has always been the case and in turn have deemed them as "natural born" citizens. They are not though because our Constitution does not even come close to making that assertion that they are even citizens by virtue of being born here.

67 posted on 02/06/2016 9:48:39 AM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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