It seems to me that if you want to avoid a charge of bigotry for impugning an entire religion, you ought to specify a bill of particulars and be prepared to defend.
I have no problem with discussing this with anyone
Like Huckabee and Santorum, targeting the evangelicals gets you Iowa, and not much else.
What conversation? All I see is an insulting and unsubstantiated allegation, apparentlt durected against Ted Cruz of all people! Count me out.
It seems to me that if you want to avoid a charge of bigotry for impugning an entire religion, you ought to specify a bill of particulars and be prepared to defend.
That's Stockholm Syndrome, and I'm disappointed that so many voters in Iowa didn't see it for what it is.
And while we are at it lets talk about those conservatives who will "swarm" to anyone who spouts a few attractive conservative sounding talking points during campaign season, while they are lifetime big government, liberals who have done nothing for conservatives. We don't have enough of these types right now.
I will pass this pointless discussion.
expand the state?
a whole new army to deport people?
a whole new bureaucracy to pay for student loans?
a whole new bureaucracy to make all healthcare free?
oh wait...
That was all Trump
Well I’m certainly not voting for Mr Single Payor 2000.. trump circa 2000 is a whichever way rhe nomination blows. A,man who says they are going to force Israel.. force apple... cities have the right to condemn is not my guy. Besides, he ditched a debate because he is afraid of a girl who might ask unfair questions... so In summary trump is the libs way of ensuring obamacare stays.. or worse Trumps government funded healthcare... doesn’t understand the words sovereign nation.. scared of unfairness... and worse hiding behind veterans. I am a veteran and that Uber progressive tactic angered me. Not just no.
Two Corinthians ping! Go hide your women .. I think there were some evangelicals in your area..
Who (or is it Whom) is the more statist ?
Trump or Cruz?
Remember how well all that pandering worked out for Santorum and Huckabee? Cruz will be different though.
It’s called campaigning on your actual vote record, not false promises, by living your word, not changing it. Cruz is real, I have met him 4 times now, spoke with him, he us consistent, and his voting record matches his talk. No one else in the race can say that.
Bovine excrement. God has raised up Ted Cruz for such a time as this. Winning Iowa is prayers answered.
I’ve come to realize Ted is out for Ted, mostly talk, much useless action.
I call him a Christian in name only. Just using jesus to help him get what he wants, not having surrendered himself for God to use - as evidenced by shamegate and not apologizing, caving votes, conveniently forgetting to list loans and last I knew I still had not righted that either, allowing rumor about carson on caucus night with weak apology only because he had to to try to save face. And these are just a few of his “speak Christian, but act other” moments of late, let alone his colleagues don’t like him so he can’t really accomplish anything.
I’d rather have Trump who makes it clear he is marginally Christian but has much much stronger examples to back up the fact He can push for and implement many changes this country needs if it is to remain the USofA.
Both need our prayers for God to change their hearts and minds to be more as He wants for His purposes of our country.
If I read correct elsewhere our country started with the people raising up people to be in leadership positions (some of which had to be persuaded to run), not individuals seeking office themselves and having to garner support and hopefully sway /gain the voters interest in them.
Your post is Orwellian.
Cruz is the least Statist major candidate of your lifetime, except maybe for the Pauls.
Proverbs 29:2
When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.
You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
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Something that baffled me for a long time isn't specific to Ted Cruz, but rather the broader problem: the tendency for my co-religionists to coalesce around individuals to the point where they go off the rails. A couple of years ago I had someone seriously threaten me because I refused to admit that Mike Huckabee was the only man who could save the world. Over the years, there have been other politicians who have been somehow designated to be the next man to lead us to the promised land (beginning the trek in Iowa). Yeah, it's the rhetoric. Each election there seems to a certain influential group of Iowans who determine that someone has said (said, not necessarily done or believed) the right things, and the memes become the means.
I get laughed at enough by people for my faith - no surprise, as Jesus said it would go with the territory - but (almost) every four years I get to stand here and watch my neighbors buy into the latest Great Christian Hope, beating the rest of us over the head with him. "Christian" forbearance and love for one another go out the window pretty quickly, and talk about logs in the eye of anyone who disagrees comes easy. Well, no man is perfect. Not me, not anyone on FR, not Donald Trump, not Hillary Clinton and not even Ted Cruz. Does God bring forth men and women for his own ends? Yes. Obvious ones and improbable ones. I don't presume to know who they are, and I don't presume that anyone else on this board has gotten word from the top either.
So if people think Donald Trump will stop the rot, I can understand that. Ted Cruz? I can understand that too. I happen to think there are better men than either for the task- they aren't running in this election, but I am still allowed an opinion on it.
I'm pretty immune to the rhetoric that you are talking about, but - to my embarrassment - I wasn't so proof against it when I was less strong in my faith. I was looking for a man to save my sorry self and my overvalued stuff, rather than looking to Him.
Mr. niteowl77.
Government or no one in it is going to save our souls. But a godly man could save our country. We have things exactly backward. I want a President who is always conscious of the fact that there is someone he is accountable to other than voters
Never thought I’d see the day on FR when an anti-Christian vanity thread was allowed to stand.
Progress! Forward!