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Quite a few points in this story beyond the excerpts
1 posted on 01/29/2016 7:23:45 AM PST by Nextrush
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To: Nextrush

Has the FBI released the video yet?


2 posted on 01/29/2016 7:28:40 AM PST by skeeter
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Oregon ping


5 posted on 01/29/2016 7:39:37 AM PST by goodnesswins (Alinsky.....it's whats up)
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Comments on the Oregonlive web were probably typical of what lives in Oregon. I would not want one of them with me in a foxhole. Almost all of the comments show a complete lack of respect for States Rights and total acceptance of Federal Intervention, as well as land ownership. Sad commentary on what people know or don’t know about the long gone Republic.


8 posted on 01/29/2016 7:45:33 AM PST by wita
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What you need to know:

White civil disobedience will get you killed.

Black civil disobedience will get your picture on stamps.

9 posted on 01/29/2016 7:47:36 AM PST by fulltlt
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A “Snatch” operation is used to take someone alive.

An “Ambush” operation is used to kill people.

The hard part about a Snatch operation is shutting down the escape routes.
This fellow managed to get away, so the government agents didn’t do a good job of shutting down the escape routes.

You will have to decide whether that was in error or on purpose.

I believe it was a poorly done Snatch operation. The government agents had overwhelming advantage in all areas.

Overall:

Planning - failure
Execution - failure


10 posted on 01/29/2016 7:48:37 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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I tend to sympathize with their general cause, however when they first started I wondered how their outcome would fair when compared to Waco or Ruby Ridge. I wondered if they had some end game strategy where there would be no bloodshed and come out on top with more support nationally than when they started.

I really think it could have been done better than the last of them bartering against odds that guarantee a loss.

They would have done much better if they had taken over the facility with no arms (not so much as a baseball bat or knife), stealing no vehicles, damaging no property, invited the media in, made several speeches stating their claims and goals, and peacefully leaving after about 3 or 4 days.


16 posted on 01/29/2016 8:22:32 AM PST by redfreedom (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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The witness in the car could hear the gunshots and see their effect on LaVoy, where the video from the drone had no audio.


22 posted on 01/29/2016 9:31:16 AM PST by RideForever (OldMainframer)
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