we have plague here In the states- every now and again folks die from it- a couple of hunters a few years ago died of it- not only black plague but pneumonic plague as well
Black death may have been lurking.-Ben Lurkin. LOL.
In November 1979, while serving in Vietnam, I contracted Yersinia Pestis, Black Plague, I spent 23 days in a hospital and lost 65 pounds during those 23 days. They treated it with streptomycin antibiotic, after misdiagnosing it for the first 10 days, but I survived.
Melissa Harris-Perry should do a report on this.
The conventional wisdom of this plague doesn’t pass the logic test.
Too fast, too convenient an answer. (Stored and transmitted by rats” is usual answer.)
So, if it came in from China on a ship, how did the virus/plague go from sailor to city to resident to wander/trader between cities to the next city so fast? faster than “rats” can travel.
Sure, people carry it. But then why the rat+flea vector? How the rat+flea vector so quick ?
Too rapid a rise, too great a death rate, and then it “vanishes ....” to negligible levels today.
But in the 1600’s, 1700’s, 1800’s ... life was not too much different. Sanitation and rat control was not much different than in the 1400’s.
Sure, today? The plague would be less. But why did it stop? What was it? Two different diseases certainly: one short (air borne? One longer, slower. Flea borne? Maybe.
Diseases eradicated here are coming back due to the illegals being allowed in.
Michelangelo caught the plague and survived it. This according to Irving Stone in The Agony and the Ecstasy.
Marseilles is, incidentally, one of the most ancient habitations in Europe. It was Greek before anything else, and as such a trade center before the Romans rose to greatness. What actually came in over these trade routes is lost in the mists of time, but these people were never isolated.
Maybe some species that lives far away from people is the reservoir, and only rare extreme weather conditions drives them into proximity with people.
But the map the article shows of the spread of plague over time seems to indicate that it came in a wave from Asia Minor and in from the coasts - not springing up locally.
The Mongol empires left after their great conquests were still ruling Asia, and plague outbreaks are still common in the Summer in present-day Mongolia.
He believed that this mutation which dates back some 700 years had been caused by the plague and only occurs in those descended from certain European areas and Great Britain.
I agree with others. I suspect that pretty much everything that attacks humans today has been ‘Lurkin for many millions of years, but cannot break out unless the conditions are right, with the two key conditions being population density and sanitation. One in a while one of these microbes pops up, takes out some people, but don’t have the capability to go widespread. But if the populace is already weakened, and living tightly together, watch out.
Black Death is racist.
Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.
The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead†ping list (formerly the “Ebola†ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.
So far the false positive rate is 100%.
At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead†threads will miss the beginning entirely.
*sigh* Such is life, and death...
A recurrence of plague would fit nicely with UN Agenda 21, which calls for reduction of Earth’s population by about 85%.