[IAMNO1]

“If people had listened to people who think like I and others do, we'd not be in this mess.”

Respectfully, it doesn't work that way. You will ALWAYS be on the loosing side waiting on other people to come around to your way of thinking. In Chicago, where I escaped from, they voted “machine” and nobody could/would ever change the outcome. The best that could have happened there, which never did, was for a populist non-liberal candidate to run who swept up the people. As far as a conservative winning office, I just blew a snot bubble laughing at the thought.

[Norm Lenhart]

I don’t wait.

[Finny]

IAM, Norm isn't talking about waiting on other people to come around to our way of thinking.

What Norm is talking about is being accountable for want you vote FOR and to STOP with the happy self-delusion that you didn't vote for leftist Romney, not really, and you didn't vote for a TV host for Republican president who himself has never voted in a Republican primary (something I have been doing for 40 years), you voted against the Democrat. When in truth, the only thing you did was for FOR whoever it is you voted for. PERIOD.

I only vote for what I want to win, and so does Norm. For a long time, I voted the way YOU still vote, IAM, and therefore, I am partly responsible for getting us into this mess. There is no "waiting on other people to come around to my way of thinking."

There is ONLY being accountable for what you vote for.