Posted on 01/20/2016 11:40:34 AM PST by Citizen Zed
Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh said Wednesday that Trump's popularity is evidence that "nationalism and populism have overtaken conservatism" in the Republican Party
"The Trump triumph - the Trump coalition - is exposing the fact that it isn't conservative orthodoxy, or conservatism or any of the hard work of the conservative elite," explained Limbaugh, "that is causing people to be conservative."
LIMBAUGH: It's something really simple... They're fed up with the modern day Democratic Party... The Republican Party establishment does not understand this. They do not know who their conservative voters are. They've over-estimated their conservatism... They're not liberals. They're not Democrat. Many of them do not want to be thought of as conservatives for a host of reasons. So somebody who comes along and is able to convey that he or she understands why they're angry and furthermore, is going to do everything to fix it, is going to own them. What's happening here is that 'nationalism' - dirty word, ooh people hate it - and 'populism' - even dirtier word. Nationalism and populism have overtaken conservatism in terms of appeal.
Levin and Limbaugh dare to break the 1st Commandment: Thou shalt not have any other God but Donald Trump. If you listen to both daily you know they aren’t Trump “haters”.
Conservatism without Nationalism is no different than Faith without Works.
Not worth a hill of beans.
Don’t be obtuse. Rush is not calling Trump a Democrat. He’s saying the GOP voters this cycle want somebody to fix the dang problems. They don’t care so much about conservatism this go around. Even conservatives just want the dang wall built.
You’re so angry you’re unable to correctly analyze what I’m saying and instead shoot straight for personal attacks. With that said your tirade proves my point: We’re arguing about nothing while the world around us burns.
The time for talk is over, it’s time for action.
And yes, I support Trump. I support a man who build an $11 billion empire over an ideologue who has served in the rarified air of Washington for most of his adult life.
I think so too. We will see what comes out in the wash now. My guess is the tough talk will fade just like all of them do and we get nothing but the same o same o.
Perfect.
I listened to Rush today, and I don’t think he was negative on Trump at all, just pointing out that Conservatism isn’t ideologically pure and attacking Trump on the grounds that he’s ‘not conservative enough’ is a laugh since no one can agree what Conservatism is, and the base(not us) don’t really give a hoot about conservatism anyway and are instead NATIONALISTS.
The time for talk is over, it’s time for action.
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Yes, NOOB, it’s time for action....and you’re just the man to lead us. You and DONALD TRUMP (PEACE BE UPON HIM) can lead us to defeat folks who would phase out unneeded government subsidies and mandates such as those for Ethanol. You must be VERY PROUD of yourself as you and your Donald embark upon the journey to stop the world from burning.
Deal with it, Rush.
For the most part is a dream world and the pick must be those that most closely protect and bring economy back to America. The world has never seen perfection but those that best makes America great and that includes the masses of it's citizens. I have to laugh at these arses that just don't get it but continue on the must be a Constitutional Conservative. There is none!!!!! Grow the hell up.
Sorry Rush, lets get America back to a land worth living in.
Trump for President.
Was Trump right or wrong...Does the economy do better under the Democrats??? I haven’t researched it but I suspect it’s true...
Republicans support and represent big business and big money...The have not in my lifetime supported the working middle class...
Won’t it be great to have a Republican President who cares about the middle class of the country as well as business interests...
I know it’s inconceivable to many but I believe our Nation can have a prosperous middle class along with prosperous business...One side doesn’t always have to rape the other over profits...
Don t know what he means but I think a few years of Nationalism would be good for us.
Even conservatives just want the dang wall built.
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Tru dat! And DONALD TRUMP (PRAISE HIM) will make the Mexicans pay for it. He guarantees that and anyone who doubts Mexico will pay for a wall is a FOOL. THANK GOD FOR DONALD TRUMP (AND MAY MANY BLESSING FALL UPON HIM). Anyone who doubts he will win in a historic landslide is a FOOL.
TRUMP is the Messiah for whom we have been praying.
Agreed. Rush is saying that people are “fed up with the modern Democratic Party” and by extension the failure of the GOPe to contain it.
They want a fighter who they think will win, and win by landing heavy political blows on the Democrats and the SJW bullies that make up their activist base and political schock troops. Ideological considerations are secondary to that.
Calling me a noob and ignoring my point makes you, not me, look like the fool.
You’re arguing about Ethanol while Muslims are trying to blow up our damn civilization. The barbarians aren’t at the gates THEY ARE INSIDE and it’s time to get REAL.
Rush is missing the larger picture.
You are so uninformed about what TPA actually is. You are conflating it with TPP, either because you are just repeating talking points, or because you are ignorant.
Just to clarify, TPA has been around since the 70’s. It creates a framework that lays out what Congress will accept and will not accept in any trade negotiations in advance. This is to make sure that negotiators are not making deals that Congress knows in advance they will not approve.
Let’s look at this from a practical aspect. If you are a businessman negotiating a contract, how would you feel if every time you thought you had an agreement, the opposing party had to take it back to the corporate office, where they reviewed for months on end, only to have the other party come back and tell you that on items you spent months negotiating, the other party never had the authority to negotiate in the first place? And now you have to start all over.
We’re talking about Obama’s TPA. And I’m not conflating it with Obama TPP. There is no 5,000 page lobbyist written Obama TPP without TPA. TPA enables TPP. They are forever connected. That why it was so damaging for Ted Cruz to not just vote to advance TPA but to campaign for it. He is defacto supporting TPP.
As I’m sure you’re aware this debate was immediately after the Iran Deal. You present exactly the same “Congressional approval” arguments that were made for the Iran deal. How did that work out?
After we have been assaulted by every department in the Obama admin, there is simply no reason for any conservative to enable Barack Obama’s agenda and “legacy” (Time magazine).
I see you don’t mention this lowered the threshold for passage to 50 votes. Why is that? Half truths and lies by omission like those you present here are exactly why I stopped supporting Cruz for POTUS after TPA. If we can’t trust him on big issues like trade and immigration he is not deserving of our vote.
Levin and Limbaugh dare to break the 1st Commandment: Thou shalt not have any other God but Donald Trump. If you listen to both daily you know they aren’t Trump “hatersâ€.
Nope. They’ve created a new 11th Commandment: Thou Shall Not Criticize Ted Cruz.
I don’t think “nationalist” really fits. The populism Trump is tapping into is more anti-Progressive than anything else.
There’s certainly a nationalist component, but also free speech/thought/conscience and free market economics components. What it all adds up to is that Progressives have been using SJW tactics to drag society in a direction counter to society’s wishes and out of proportion to the Progressives own numbers. Using bullying tactics that a bunch of the public is well and truly tired of. And that portion of the public is now flocking to Trump ...
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