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Who will be our next overlord?
1 posted on 01/18/2016 1:49:16 PM PST by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

Can Trump win?


2 posted on 01/18/2016 1:49:50 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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Unfavorables and wrong-track polls didn’t keep Obama from being re-elected. Nor did the unemployment rate and stock market swings.


3 posted on 01/18/2016 1:50:53 PM PST by MHT (,)
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The fix in in. No matter who is put up Hillary wins.


5 posted on 01/18/2016 1:54:19 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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Bernie and Hillary are know political entities. Trump is an enigma. He has the most upside with reintroducing himself as a Presidential candidate, to those who think they know him, but are surprised when they here him .
6 posted on 01/18/2016 1:54:28 PM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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From the polls I have read Trump is drawing a wide spread electorate. A good percentage of Blacks and a lot of blue collar workers. If he gets the Palin backing look out.


7 posted on 01/18/2016 1:54:33 PM PST by Parley Baer
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And yet somehow two recent polls show Trump beating Hillary.


10 posted on 01/18/2016 1:55:17 PM PST by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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Really, Here in Blue NJ only one name is on everone’s Tongue, it’s Donald Trump!


11 posted on 01/18/2016 1:55:36 PM PST by fedupjohn (America...Designed by Geniuses...Now inhabited by Idiots..Palin 2016...)
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Riight...


13 posted on 01/18/2016 1:57:53 PM PST by AdaGray
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To: Citizen Zed

Problem is the standard assumptions of politics do not apply this year. Looking at the polling, a good chunck of these people are saying “yeah Trump is a real jerk but I will vote for him.”

Don’t get confused that “Favorably equals electable”. Right up to a few days before the 2012 election Obama was in negative territory on favorabitlity. Thanks to Chris Chrite big hug fest with O right before the election in NJ he got a sudden up tick in favorable numbers right at the very last minute.


16 posted on 01/18/2016 2:00:49 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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My friend who feels the Bern was here this am, having watched DT’s Speech at Liberty U.
She agrees with some of Trump’s positions, and she and her husband have stated if it is a Hillary vs Trump race, they will vote for Trump.


17 posted on 01/18/2016 2:01:08 PM PST by sockmonkey (Of course I didn't read the article. After all, this is Free Republic.)
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Dream on. Trump has a very broad swath of appeal across party lines. He will win the general election in a landslide.


23 posted on 01/18/2016 2:13:00 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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I don’t but Ted’s favorables are highest - his unfavorables are also the best, less than 20, less than Carson now. These things end up affecting how people vote, though not one trumpee will agree.
Plus the head to head Cruz wins including NH.


25 posted on 01/18/2016 2:14:01 PM PST by libbylu (Trump's supporters have the same brain disease as Hillary's supporters)
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Nate Silver got the UK elections in 2015 MASSIVELY wrong. His excuse? “Lots of others got it wrong, too.”


27 posted on 01/18/2016 2:17:42 PM PST by gg188
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JUST WAIT A DARN MINUTE! Someone’s lying...it’s not possible that TRUMP (BLESSED BE HIS NAME) can be other than the MOST popular candidate for President...and by a YUUUUUGE margin.


35 posted on 01/18/2016 2:26:40 PM PST by House Atreides (Cruzin' [BUT NO LONGER Trumping'] or losin'!)
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Quiet

The people on FR don’t know this yet


36 posted on 01/18/2016 2:27:12 PM PST by woofie
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Is this the same flying nat Silver who tried and tried and tried to ignore Trump all year long hoping he would go away? LoL.


40 posted on 01/18/2016 2:34:00 PM PST by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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Would that be the people who want free stuff, and uncle sugar to take care of them?

Color me shocked.


44 posted on 01/18/2016 2:51:17 PM PST by AFreeBird
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Thank you for referencing that article Citizen Zed. Please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

Patriots are reminded that the Founding States never intended for POTUS to be elected by general voters. This is evidenced mainly by the Constitutions Clauses 2 & 3 of Section 2 of Article II, referred to as the electoral college. This approach to electing POTUS was undoubtedly intended to protect state sovereignty by helping to prevent constitutional overreach by the feds.

Note that the Founding States had likewise never intended for the Senate to be elected by general voters. But as a consequence of the ill-conceived 17th Amendment which was successfully promoted by the anti-constitutional republic Progressive Movement of the early 20th century, low-information voters have been electing corrupt politicians to the Senate.

Such politicians, including also the generally elected POTUS, get themselves elected by wrongly promising voters social spending programs and constitutionally baseless civil rights that the states have actually never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific powers to establish.

In other words, low-information voters have unthinkingly enabled the corrupt Senate and the likewise corrupt Oval Office to steal 10th Amendment protected state powers, the feds using such powers to greatly overstep their constitutionally limited powers.

If general voters had stuck with the Founding States original ideas for electing POTUS and Senate, citizens would probably have to guess who the current POTUS is since it is the states who actually have the lions share of constitutional authority to serve the people.

So low-information general voters can sleep in the bed that they have made for themselves with respect to being walked on by the unconstitutionally big federal government which they are primarily responsible for creating imo.

Thomas Jefferson had put it this way.

”Cherish, therefore, the spirit of our people, and keep alive their attention. If once they become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, judges and governors, shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature.” - Thomas Jefferson (Letter to Edward Carrington January 16, 1787)

46 posted on 01/18/2016 3:09:39 PM PST by Amendment10
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Since less than HALF of the Americans who COULD vote don't even bother to register and of THEM, fewer than half vote, the election will be decided by those who "bothered" to register AND vote.

We get exactly what we "pay" for.

I ALWAYS vote absentee. That way I have plenty of time to mull things over.

48 posted on 01/18/2016 3:13:22 PM PST by cloudmountain
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And, the worst voting record is from 18-year-olds.
The SECOND worst voting record is from 19-year-olds.
The third worst voting record is from 20-year-olds.
And so on.

They won't care until they are in their late 30's, if then. FAT and HAPPY, except for the disgruntled here on FR.
If they have to pay tons of income tax, they will be ticked off major league. I pay taxes ahead of time--NO choice. No good to grumble and gripe. I have NO choice.

50 posted on 01/18/2016 3:16:49 PM PST by cloudmountain
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