[soakncider]

I respect your opinions as well as your kind demeanor, and I appreciate your thoughtful and informative posts. I realize this subject touches a lot of nerves, but it’s important to look at all sides...as there are more than just two sides.

there may come a day when we want to consider secession seriously.... like when the ‘rapefugee’ jihad begins in earnest, and our federal overlords fail to protect our communities.

[BroJoeK]

soakncider: "there may come a day when we want to consider secession seriously.... "

So far as I know, everyone posting here to defend the Union side of Civil War also agrees that secession could have been, and still is, lawful & constitutional, provided it's done in accordance with our Founders' original intentions: 1) by mutual consent -- meaning with the approval of Congress, or 2) as a result of usurpations and oppression, which I would say should be confirmed by the Supreme Court.

Yes, those are very high bars to clear, and any state combinations which could jump such hurdles would doubtless also have the political wherewithal to effect necessary changes within the Union.
But there it is.

[Partisan Gunslinger]

there may come a day when we want to consider secession seriously.... like when the ‘rapefugee’ jihad begins in earnest, and our federal overlords fail to protect our communities.

I certainly won't hold the slavers as an example or heroes if that day comes.