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To: Fantasywriter; Cold Heat; wardaddy; John Valentine

AZ State Rep Calls For Constitutional Convention On Cruz Birth Issue
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Further down I suggested a modest constitutional amendment [easier and, with rapid communications, also faster than a convention ...]

‘...amend that English-speaking parents with Canadian citizenship also help qualify natural born status. Why not? It’s not some radical Islamo-nut nation like Indonesia after all. Even Quebec is not so bad either.’

Cruz should not turn too openly for such a process. It would make him look weak. But this is a good way to flush out who wants to use rules and process to disqualify him.


138 posted on 01/17/2016 3:45:45 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (1000 muslim migrant gang-rapists in Germany -- Trump helped trigger protests.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

That’s not going to work.

Actually it’s not even the argument. Speaking English means nothing in this case. What means something is intent and if natural born status can be transferred from mother to son.

The opposition will try to tell you that Cruz is a natural born Canadian and a naturalized American.

That thinking is solely based on place of birth.

I contend as do many others that blood places a role as well, or both.

The deterrent security effect of the natural born language was meant to act as a firewall against foreign interferences in the US government.

The opposition will tell you that split allegiance is the problem.

I will argue that allegiance to a foreign power is the problem and dual allegiance is a ridiculous assertion and means nothing. How can ones allegiance be bifurcated by tracing the origins of the parent.

Secondly, prior to the founding, the populace, (America having not been created yet) had allegiances to Britain, France and the Colonies. How then would any fledgling government impose a constitutional law that exposes this by place of birth.

This same issue developed where this term (natural born)originated in Europe. We see that in the argument and discussions from old Europe as well. Again there are two sides, one arguing place and the other blood and place.

I believe this is why both place of birth and blood are used to determine natural born.

I think I am done with this,,,,,past done in fact.


141 posted on 01/17/2016 12:24:49 PM PST by Cold Heat
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