Will they fight? A hypothetical for discussion

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[Cowman]

A question I have been pondering for the last two years(OK more like the last 25 years) is "Just what would it take for the Republican party to rise up and fight the Left?'

The nightmare scenario that keeps haunting me is that Hillary loses in November and Obama just refuses to leave office. He has shredded all the other parts of the Constitution so I don't think this is all that far fetched.

I don't think it is all that far fetched that the Republican establishment would roll over and play dead at this either -- Particularly if the winning candidate is someone unpalatable to the GOP establishment.

[Cowman]

Your Thoughts...

[PittsburghAfterDark]

If you truly want to know what armed rebellion looks like when it isn’t on CNN you would find out.

[The Iceman Cometh]

Nah, Obama wants to ride off in the sunset with Reggie and play golf while he plots to become the UN Secretary.

He's screwed over America, time to screw over the rest of the world. Wouldn't take much work as most of the pieces are in place.

[nopardons]

Many on FR said the same things about the Clintons...that they wouldn't leave, Slick would declare Martial Law; none of which came to pass.

Obama HATES being president; he just LOVES the perks. He'll leave and leave one GIGANTIC mess for whomever be the next president.

[Norm Lenhart]

My thoughts are that people that are too scared to vote for their principles in private are not going to do squat in such a scenario but turn in their guns and grovel like Germans before muslims. The GOP campaigned on working with Barry ‘where possible’.

ANYTHING is ‘possible’.

[r_barton]

>Obama HATES being president; he just LOVES the perks. He’ll leave and leave one GIGANTIC mess for whomever be the next president.

Well on things for sure. He won’t get his cleaning deposit back. ;-)

[LibWhacker]

Ultimately, at some point, it’s not going to be up to the totally compromised GOPe to fight, but to the people of the United States. And the latter will fight because unlike the fat cats in the GOPe, they won’t be able to avoid the consequences of not fighting by fleeing with their wealth.

[Mount Athos]

“Just what would it take for the Republican party to rise up and fight the Left?”

I look at Paul Ryan and I realize the republican party is the left.

[Cowman]

..that they wouldn't leave, Slick would declare Martial Law; none of which came to pass.

But at that time we had the Contract With America congress that was not as submissive to the administration as the current congress.

[bramps]

Well, thanks for guaranteeing a crappy night of sleep with that case scenario!

[nopardons]

LOL...probably not. :-)

Not to worry, Trump will get it all cleaned up and fixed up. :-)

[Cowman]

I look at Paul Ryan and I realize the republican party is the left.

OK perhaps I should rephrase that to "What would it take to get the defacto opposition party to actually oppose the party in power?"

[nopardons]

By that time, Newtie was compromised, discredited and had no sway over anyone or anything.

Obama WILL go!

[nopardons]

To be primaried out and replaced !

[Norm Lenhart]

Still a problem. They are only 2 parties in name, not deed.

How about “What would it take for people within the org to turn on each other?”

[Cowman]

I'm not a Newt fan. I just can't get behind someone who believes that LaFollette and TR are giants of Conservatism. What Newt was very good at though, was getting the GOP to come together behind efforts to stop the agenda of the Clinton administration. Even the Government shutdown brought in stronger support for his efforts than for the Dems.(No matter what the current view of shutdowns is they were popular at the time and energized the GOP base)

Is leadership the problem or is it something more?

[E. Pluribus Unum]

No.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/xOAgT8L_BqQ

[MarchonDC09122009]

I’ve pondered your question and concerns for over the last few years.
I’ve come to the sad conclusion that the fight appears to be gone from all of us.
We are no longer godly, scratch has filled the vacuum and runs things.

The first ammendment (PC & hate speech laws) and second ammendment rights are narrowing, yet no one is organizing protest effortscand march in opposition.
Our apathy and inaction condones evil and guarantees our demise.

[nopardons]

At one time I was a HUGE fan of Newtie. Then, over time, he began to lose me bit by bit and now I don't see him through rose colored glasses at all.

But that isn't really the thrust of this thread.

[who_would_fardels_bear]

If there is anyone in charge it is a floating oligarchy of moneyed interests.

The thing they want the least is uncertainty. If Hillary doesn't win, they will not risk an insurrection by foisting Obama on the people. Instead they will try their best to get their people in places of power such as key White House or Cabinet positions.

Failing that, they will bribe congress so as to thwart anything an independent president might want to do.

But it may be even easier than that. They seem to have convinced even Reagan to go along with some pretty stupid stuff, and by 'they' I mean the neocons and bankers.

So it's possible they will whisper sweet nothings into the ears of either Cruz or Trump and get them to believe that the interests of the bankers and the public at large are one.

And if they can convince a Trump or a Cruz or a supposedly conservative congress to support their plans, then there will be no fight. The public will go along as they always have. Everyone is too afraid of chaos to risk even a taste of revolutionary change.