Yay! Obama’s Executive Orders Make It Easier To Get Machine Guns (and silencers)

Bearing Arms ^ | 1/5/16 | Bob Ownes

[DeathBeforeDishonor1]

Unable to ram his attacks on the Second Amendment through Congress, a bitter Barack Obama has been reduced to pushing his Executive Branch powers to the the breaking point with a series of “executive orders” that the White House finally outlined last night.

They range from open lies, to empty threats, to harassment, to a few things that might actually be very beneficial to some gun owners, to a Orwellian scheme that could get many law enforcement officers and military servicemen killed.

Let’s jump right into what these executive orders outline, and separate Obama’s bluster from reality by dissecting his so-called “fact sheet.”

[Resolute Conservative]

I want a M2.

[deadrock]

Hard drugs are illegal, yet people keep killing themselves with them.

To stop people killing others(100x gun deaths) by selling hard drugs to them, let's make more laws and rules to hinder the everyday man/woman from obtaining their everyday legal prescriptions.

Makes as much sense as his EOs.

[PROCON]

LOL, a .50 cal would be nice but buying ammo....Ouch!

[OpusatFR]

I’ve always wanted a silencer. The noise makes me jump and spoils my aim.

[driftdiver]

Sorry I dont have $25,000 laying around.

Call me when we can buy new manufacture.

[230FMJ]

I’ve seen it down in the $4.00 a round range.

[familyop]

"Let’s jump right into what these executive orders outline, and separate Obama’s bluster from reality by dissecting his so-called “fact sheet.”"

Doctors can report some mentally ill patients to FBI under new gun control rule
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3379708/posts

Follow the link to the original article, and read the part about the HIPAA exclusion. There would be no remedy.

[dp0622]

I think it should be harder to get roxys and percocets.

hunting and going to fire range are fun hobbies for people.

narcotic abuse in the country is a disaster

doctors don’t get arrested for selling scripts for nothing.

[PROCON]

At $4.00/round and on full auto, you could definitely go through a hundred dollar bill real quick.

[familyop]

If an article from Bearing Arms did not need to be excerpted, here's more from the article.

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Unfortunately, there is every reason to suspect that under this Administration that the goal is to merely ensure that more people are labeled as mentally ill to deny them gun rights without getting them any actual help. This is incredibly cynical, and will not help save lives. The part where he used the Social Security Administration as a weapon

Obama has been consistent in his attempts to use the Veterans Administration and the Social Security Administration to deny citizens their gun rights if they have been declared unable to take care of their affairs.

Include information from the Social Security Administration in the background check system about beneficiaries who are prohibited from possessing a firearm. Current law prohibits individuals from buying a gun if, because of a mental health issue, they are either a danger to themselves or others or are unable to manage their own affairs. The Social Security Administration (SSA) has indicated that it will begin the rulemaking process to ensure that appropriate information in its records is reported to NICS. The reporting that SSA, in consultation with the Department of Justice, is expected to require will cover appropriate records of the approximately 75,000 people each year who have a documented mental health issue, receive disability benefits, and are unable to manage those benefits because of their mental impairment, or who have been found by a state or federal court to be legally incompetent. The rulemaking will also provide a mechanism for people to seek relief from the federal prohibition on possessing a firearm for reasons related to mental health.

If we were only talking about people with advanced dementia who were seeing ghosts and could be considered a legitimate threat to themselves or others, then that would potentially be a good move... but that's not what this is.

Obama is casting his net as wide as possible to ensnare folks who have short-term memory loss issues, who are recovering from strokes, etc. If, for any reason, you cannot "manage your own affairs" on even a temporary basis, a faceless government bureaucrat can strip you of your constitutional rights under this despicable plot.

This isn't just spiteful, it's abusive.
Trust us, we're from the government

The devil is going to be in the details on this one...

Remove unnecessary legal barriers preventing States from reporting relevant information to the background check system. Although States generally report criminal history information to NICS, many continue to report little information about individuals who are prohibited by Federal law from possessing or receiving a gun for specific mental health reasons. Some State officials raised concerns about whether such reporting would be precluded by the Privacy Rule issued under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA). Today, the Department of Health and Human Services issued a final rule expressly permitting certain HIPAA covered entities to provide to the NICS limited demographic and other necessary information about these individuals.

Expect the Obama Administration to attempt to use temporary problems--people who enter into one-time treatment to deal with personal trauma or bereavement issues--to create lifetime bans on gun ownership.

Once again, evil.

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[familyop]

“Recreational” drug use and alcoholism are the main force behind most violent crimes. The executive orders will do nothing substantial to decrease those problems and causes.

[subterfuge]

I suggest all articles about obama include the term LAME DUCK!

[Bob434]

[[a bitter Barack Obama has been reduced to pushing his Executive Branch powers to the the breaking point]]

Um- He WAY overstepped his authority- He is saying that he will prosecute anyone that breaks his NEW gun laws- He is not allowed to make new laws- yet he did, and he is threatening enforcing them

[Carthego delenda est]

From the article:

“Require background checks for people trying to buy some of the most dangerous weapons and other items through a trust or corporation. The National Firearms Act imposes restrictions on sales of some of the most dangerous weapons, such as machine guns and sawed-off shotguns. But because of outdated regulations, individuals have been able to avoid the background check requirement by applying to acquire these firearms and other items through trusts, corporations, and other legal entities. In fact, the number of these applications has increased significantly over the years—from fewer than 900 applications in the year 2000 to more than 90,000 applications in 2014. ATF is finalizing a rule that makes clear that people will no longer be able to avoid background checks by buying NFA guns and other items through a trust or corporation.”

Silencers fall in this catagory as well. They certainly can NOT be called some of “the most dangerous weapons”.

[Twinkie]

Shhh. Don’t tell him! - I can’t keep up with all his
gyrations. - We’re out in the boonies. We have lots of
pit vipers on over 16 acres, coyotes, bobcats, the
occasional bear ranging through. Our lives are not his
and Micheles & kids. They live in a bubble outside our
realm altogether. Don’t want to live in town; wasn’t born
in town. Thirty years out here. (I am not stout enough
to depend on using the crossbow for predators; so have
to use old gun.)

[Twinkie]

Can you get you a bullet mold and pour your own?

[Cyman]

Both Trump and Sen Cruz need to be pushed regarding the permanent destruction of all background checks and information that has accumulated from years of gun registrations both on a federal and if possible state level(Kaleefornia)

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

I wants one of these to start! Maybe something bigger when I can afford it!