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Blu-ray review: ‘The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies’ (Extended Edition) has more to love
Celebrity Cafe ^ | 12.30.2015

Posted on 01/02/2016 9:49:39 PM PST by Perdogg

Back on Nov. 17, Warner Bros. released the long-awaited, extended edition of The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies. The film adds just 20 extra minutes, but packs a lot of emotion into those minutes.

By now, most of us have seen the Hobbit movies and it can probably be agreed that Peter Jackson created amazing pieces of art. However, most of us wished for more in-depth scenes or more face time for a favorite character. With the extended edition, we get both, plus two full discs of bonus features.

A few scenes were extended with just a couple additional camera angles, but there were others that added depth to the story. We learn more about Gandalf as a bearer of the Rings of Power during his capture before being saved by Galadriel. There is also a stunning funeral scene for the dwarfs’ fallen comrades near the end of the movie where each member of the party says their tearful goodbyes to their friends.

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KEYWORDS: jrrtolkien; peterjackson; thehobbit; warnerbros
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To: piasa

Well, the book sales reached 1 million by 1938, the year before the movie came out.


21 posted on 01/02/2016 11:41:28 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: tumblindice
Not even close to being true.

The Hobbit was published to widespread critical acclaim and won several awards for children's books; its publisher hounded Tolkien for a sequel for more than 15 years.

Like the LOTR, it is a deeply traditional work in the moral and literary tradition of myths and fairy tales, and had not even the slightest hint of counter-cultural overtones.

22 posted on 01/03/2016 12:02:38 AM PST by FredZarguna (Deathblow: "Not because of who you are, but because of different reasons altogether.")
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To: Politicalkiddo

Let me guess: You liked the Godfather trilogy?


23 posted on 01/03/2016 3:53:22 AM PST by raybbr (Obamacare needs a deatha panel)
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To: Olog-hai
I wonder why people don't react the same way to the drastic changes between the book version of "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" (in which the Wicked Witch of the West is a minor character [...]

1. Because there was no Internet in 1939.

2. Because, in the meantime, the movie totally overshadows the literary template.

Regards,

24 posted on 01/03/2016 4:37:53 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

Telegraph and teleprinter were teh intarwebs for back then. And of course the venerable snail mail.


25 posted on 01/03/2016 4:51:32 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I loved the books, and still read them every five years ago or so; for the past 40 years...

Still, I also liked the movies. Their stories were all a twist from the books, but were good by themselves.

Too many critics around here at times.


26 posted on 01/03/2016 5:05:10 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: Alas Babylon!

When the ROTK movie came out, all sorts of people were upset about the absence of the Scouring of the Shire; and they were even more upset when it didn’t appear in the Extended Edition either, saying stuff such as Jackson having more than enough revenue from the previous two LOTR movies to have included it. I do remember those days as if they were yesterday.


27 posted on 01/03/2016 5:11:00 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Perdogg
PJ is drunk on special effects and needs a good editor. He did a spectacular job in LOTR in creatively visualizing and presenting a Middle Earth landscape and bestiary that far exceeded the expectations any of us brought to the theater. The first LOTR film was a true cinematic landmark. But then the bloat began.

Mostly PJ wastes time with over-extended sequences. How much of this is directorial indiscipline and how much a cash-driven desire to cash in on extra movies, I don't know. (The Hobbit would have been excellent as two films.)

Beyond that, most of PJ's adaptations were ok in my book. (Ok, Legolas didn't really need to be entangled in a romance, but teenage girls like that sort of thing, so I'll let it go.) There were, however, two wretched mistakes: the Great Goblin scenes and subsequent escape in Moria, and the nonsensical battle with Smaug in Erebor. There was apparently no adult in the production company with the clout to tell PJ that turning these episodes into video games for ten year olds was not a good idea. I'm almost surprised he didn't work JarJar into the plot.

28 posted on 01/03/2016 5:41:26 AM PST by sphinx
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To: buwaya

“This whole thing was bloated into a disaster.
The last thing it needs is more footage.”

Ditto. The first film was excruciatingly boring and badly made. I had no desire to see any more of the films.

“The Hobbit” was a normal sized children’s book. There was no need to bloat it into three films except to make money off of people who enjoyed the “Lord Of The Rings” films.


29 posted on 01/03/2016 6:06:18 AM PST by Pravious
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To: Olog-hai
Telegraph and teleprinter were teh intarwebs for back then. And of course the venerable snail mail.

The comparison is ludicrous.

In the 1930s, people didn't use the telegraph, the teleprinter, or snail mail to establish large-scale forums for the purpose of sharing fan-fiction, conducting flame-wars, developing conspiracy theories, uploading vast glossaries, etc.

Consider the "Star Wars" phenomenon - or just a single facet of it like the "Jar-Jar Binks" issue. Millions of people have access to an open-ended discussion conducted by hundreds or thousands of laypersons about the literary, social, and even political aspects of that single, reviled character.

Such a thing would have been impossible - nay: unthinkable! - in the pre-Internet era.

Regards,

30 posted on 01/03/2016 6:15:51 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

You take the comparison too seriously.


31 posted on 01/03/2016 6:43:45 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: catnipman

How do you get chopped Orcs?

Put them in to an Orcan grinder


32 posted on 01/03/2016 6:54:05 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: raybbr

I’ve only seen the first one for a class assignment, so I wouldn’t know. Not that I see the relevance. I just think Jackson dropped the ball on these movies and that Lord Of the Rings was far superior.


33 posted on 01/03/2016 7:09:27 AM PST by Politicalkiddo ("Even peace may be purchased at too high a price." -Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Jim from C-Town
Supposedly Tolkien consciously wrote The Hobbit to be read aloud to children, English children of the 1930's of course who would have the vocabulary to comprehend it and patience to listen to it. Jackson incorporated elements from later Tolkien writings including the LOTR and the Silmarilion, making the story much longer and darker. But the basic elements, Bilbo's adventure "there and back again" with the dispossessed band of dwarves led by obsessed Thorin, the goblins, finding the ring, riddles in the dark, woodland elves aren't very nice, Lake Town, the dragon, and the battle of the five armies were all in The Hobbit. Jackson fleshed out a small book into three extremely long films. What bothered me about them was the obvious use of CGI from the LOTR. Can't blame him, really. The stuff was expensive to make originally and was otherwise just sitting on a shelf. But it was a distraction.
34 posted on 01/03/2016 7:15:15 AM PST by katana (Just my opinion)
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To: Perdogg
I think Richard Armitage should be the next James Bond.

Yes, yes... that would be nice.

35 posted on 01/03/2016 7:42:46 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Welfare: It's a Safety Net, Not a Hammock.)
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To: FredZarguna

That depends. Norse myth would be regarded as counter-cultural to Christian culture as defined by the Bible.


36 posted on 01/03/2016 8:27:39 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: buwaya
This whole thing was bloated into a disaster. The last thing it needs is more footage.

I used to have that opinion about most Extended Editions; but, in some areas the additons for The Hobbit help the movie. In The Desolation of Smaug, there was an entire sequence of Gandalf going to Dogal Dur (sp?), and there, finding Thrain alive (Thorin's father). It filled in the time when Gandalf abruptly left the Company, and what happened there. It also showed Thorin as being correct in his belief that his father was not dead.

Also, longer scene in The Prancing Pony between Gandalf and Thorin in which you learn that Thorin walked the battlefield looking for his father, and that he "looked into every face on that battlefield and his father was not there".

I thought that these scenes, and others, helped make the movie more understandable. Perhaps they just edited out the wrong things.

37 posted on 01/03/2016 8:33:48 AM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: Perdogg
and the funeral of Thorin, Kili, and Fili should have been included in the theatrical version

Agreed. I found the funeral scene moving and it should not have been taken out.

38 posted on 01/03/2016 8:36:27 AM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: LibertarianLiz

The book does not have any part of a plot about Thorins father, him being mentioned in passing if at all.
Well edited, the whole thing should be a two hour fast paced movie.
They badly mucked up too much for this to be possible though.
They tossed most of the humor.


39 posted on 01/03/2016 8:45:49 AM PST by buwaya
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To: Perdogg
I just saw the last one.

In the final battle it seemed like the blue pixels beat out the read and green pixels.

I'm kind of confused about why so many people cared about what color pixels won.

40 posted on 01/03/2016 8:47:35 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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