Posted on 12/25/2015 6:07:58 AM PST by RoosterRedux
He knew he didn’t have to make a big scene about it. He realized he would be sitting among other congregants, and his attendance would be known, by word and photograph.
When I was places where the preseident-elect was coming, if the didn’t want pictures, the Secret Service had methods of assuring that.
Not sure. But he *has* explicitly said, very plainly and clearly, that he has *never* asked God for forgiveness. Never. Just the facts ...
Wow. You need lessons in Logic 101.
The man was baptized was ours better?
He was confirmed. Was ours more special?
He has contributed financial to Jews, Evangelical movements, individuals
Do we contribute to as diverse a group?
Are we more forgiven, more holy, more blest then he is?
Seems like quite a few on FR see themselves more holy and better than others .... Am looking to see where that is covered in the Bible!
LOL!
A prayer Trump said last night
WE do not presume to come to this thy Table, O merciful Lord, trusting in our own righteousness, but in thy manifold and great mercies. We are not worthy so much as to gather up the crumbs under thy Table. But thou art the same Lord, whose property is always to have mercy: Grant us therefore, gracious Lord, so to eat the flesh of thy dear Son Jesus Christ, and to drink his blood, that our sinful bodies may be made clean by his body, and our souls washed through his most precious blood, and that we may evermore dwell in him, and he in us. Amen.
His own words are he hasn’t sought God’s forgiveness. Those are odd words for someone who is a follower of Jesus Christ.
But I don’t consider those words dispositive. They seem like the off-the-cuff remarks of a man who says many things. I’d rather highlight these words as odd than as proof of anything concerning the state of trump’s soul. But they are odd, in context.
My own perspective is that trump’s attendance at church means little. Perhaps he’s a sincere believer. Perhaps not. I don’t presume to know.
So let it be
This church is on Palm Beach Island not West Palm which is a different world.
Exactly. Information and opinions are everywhere, for example, Christmas might be the result of an Executive Order. Some believe the likes of Michael Medved who tout Saturnalia as the reason for establishing Christ’s birth as December 25.
Please re read my post. In my church we do not ask for forgiveness. Forgiveness is something we accept when we believe in Christ and that HE died for our sins. We cannot earn that forgiveness, nor can we do acts to obtain it. It was freely given by God when he sent his son to atone for OUR sins
Trumps church believes the same as mine. Are you judging me and him and many other Christians? How holy of you!
trump has said he hasn’t done anything wrong to require forgiveness. If you claim that, then I will have some doubt as to whom you really follow.
So what do you think OMuslim was doing last night?
OK, so maybe Trump is flip-flopping, or just telling people what they want to hear. Maybe he’s reciting certain prayers now. Previously, though, he has been clear that he has no need of God’s forgiveness, that he has no need of a Savior.
From http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/18/politics/trump-has-never-sought-forgiveness/ — he was asked whether he has ever asked God for forgiveness for his actions. His answer:
“I am not sure I have. I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don’t think so. I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don’t bring God into that picture. I don’t.”
So there’s your holy man, a man who is without sin and without need of forgiveness, because he is so holy.
I remain stunned that so many FReepers adore this man, and choose to overlook the things he has actually said. Some FReepers want so much for this to be their Presidential Messiah that they don’t consider the words the man has actually and truly said. Suckers.
You'd be more credible if you weren't so nasty yourself, nor supported a candidate involved in creepy cult-like religion.
Ah, so Melania is Catholic and they married there
Explains him going to Mass
And you know these personal things about Trump how?
Did I misquote The Donald?
No, I didn’t. I included the exact words that he said.
Now you’re dismissing Ted Cruz as creepy because of something someone *else* said?
Trump’s own words condemn him.
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