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1 posted on 11/30/2015 2:11:32 PM PST by Theoria
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


2 posted on 11/30/2015 2:11:55 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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As far as I’m concerned, whoever can haul it up from the ocean floor first owns it. Finder’s keepers.

I guess there should be some waiting period though, before you can claim salvage rights, just to give the original owner a grace period in recovering their property.


3 posted on 11/30/2015 2:15:03 PM PST by Boogieman
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Another casualty of the UN.

US out of the UN. Demolish the building or set it up as the National Tea Party Headquarters.

Downsize Federal Government by at least a half, 2/3 better. . except increase military spending.

Next project. .

5 posted on 11/30/2015 2:17:33 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Theoria

Hey, they are from the governments and they are there to help (themselves).


6 posted on 11/30/2015 2:22:25 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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But the industry is engaged in a battle with academic marine archaeologists and UNESCO, the Paris-based United Nations agency that tries to protect cultural treasures around the world. Critics say buried coins and loot should be studied and preserved in a museum, not sported around an investor's neck.

As usual, the critics wait until the treasure is found and in the process of being retrieved before swooping in for the booty. What is mine is mine, what is yours is mine even though you paid for it!

7 posted on 11/30/2015 2:22:51 PM PST by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: Theoria

If they wish to run archeology expeditions, pay them for it. But nope, they want to profit off the labor of others, like always, and in the process toss aside one of the oldest laws of man and the sea.


9 posted on 11/30/2015 2:27:43 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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Admiralty law has been sufficient for hundreds of years to determine the rights of the various claimants. But, liberals want their own rules and their own desires to overrule silly laws and precedence. Government, in their insatiable hunger for money, has jumped into the argument. Heritage and culture is worthy of respect, but mostly it’s just used as a cudgel for the various claimants against the treasure. The market can decide if these trinkets end up in museums, in private collections, or in the melting part. Very little of this shipwreck booty is really unique to either science or history.


12 posted on 11/30/2015 2:35:22 PM PST by centurion316 (,)
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At issue is whether private companies should be able to claim and profit from historic treasures.

Why should they not?

They take the initiative to look for the treasure if they find it then it is theirs to do with as they please.

The world is no worse off if they melt it down into ingots then if they left it at the bottom of the sea for the fish.

Most of them do give at least a portion to museums but that is their choice and should not be mandated by law.

13 posted on 11/30/2015 2:35:35 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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“...the industry is engaged in a battle with academic marine archaeologists and Unesco, the Paris-based United Nations agency that tries to protect cultural treasures around the world.”

Oh yeah, I remember them.

Weren’t they guys galvanizing the world to protect historic sites in the Middle East as Islamists destroyed antiquities millenia old and coalesced a consortium of countries to protect buildings and ruins in midst of these barbarians and their vile acts?

Or was there not enough money it for them?


17 posted on 11/30/2015 2:47:27 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy" Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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Get a few more Lawyers with no skin in the Game and it will work out just fine.


21 posted on 11/30/2015 2:57:23 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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'They called us thieves, looters, plunderers and pirates,' said Dan Porter, a Florida captain....

It is the thieving government vote-buyers who are the looters and plunderers.

Government is the scourge of the humanity.

26 posted on 11/30/2015 3:11:53 PM PST by bkopto
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To: Theoria

There’s a simple truth that has held for all of human history: finder’s keepers. Call it salvage law if you want, but the principle is the same.


31 posted on 11/30/2015 4:28:23 PM PST by Notforprophet (Don't Tread On Me)
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Everything belongs to the collective, this is the mantra o The New World Order”


35 posted on 12/01/2015 8:13:41 AM PST by stockpirate (IF ISIS IS CONTAINED THEN THE REFUGEES CAN GO HOME!)
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To: Theoria

I doubt the museums or archeologists are going to finance the hunt and provide the divers to retrieve treasures from the oceans.


36 posted on 12/01/2015 10:43:29 AM PST by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a murderer, and find one.... what's your plan?)
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To: Theoria

Shovel, sift & sell- slowly without fanfare.


37 posted on 12/01/2015 2:43:11 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Theoria; Gamecock; SaveFerris; FredZarguna; PROCON

But the industry is engaged in a battle with academic marine archaeologists and Unesco,

****”

Is anyone here a marine archaeologist?


39 posted on 12/01/2015 3:03:54 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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