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A pebble tool with a bifacially knapped and retouched edge. The stone, called serpentine, is not a local material but likely comes from the coastal cordillera west of Monte Verde. It was found at the older site, MVI, and was made 17,000-19,000 years ago. (Courtesy Tom Dillehay)

Courtesy Tom Dillehay

1 posted on 11/21/2015 10:27:27 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

Pre-Clovis?
Uh oh.


4 posted on 11/21/2015 10:33:16 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The only answer to this is boats. Humans reached Australia 50,000 years ago and even with 300 foot lower sea levels, Australia/New Guinea would have been over the horizon of the sea. The technology used to get there could easily have travelled up the coast of Sundaland, to the Philippines peninsula, the Taiwan/Japanese peninsula/coast, to Northeast Asia/Kamchatka, then Alaska and then down the West coast of the Americas.

Assuming a Sundaland launch point of slightly South of East Timor, then a boat being paddled only 5 miles North per generation would reach Alaska in just a couple of millennium. So that would put us at around 47,000 years ago. The earliest date at Monte Verde is 19,000 years ago. Plenty of time to paddle South!


5 posted on 11/21/2015 10:40:21 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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—— like prehistoric llamas or mastodons, as well as smaller creatures like prehistoric deer and horses.-——

Hmmm.... no dinosaurs?


6 posted on 11/21/2015 10:42:38 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trumping.)
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To: SunkenCiv

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After storm flows recede, many stones show up in the two creeks that flow through our property that could easily be taken to be tools; far more so than the two examples posted.

Tools designed and manufactured by tumbling stones in a stream.
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16 posted on 11/21/2015 11:34:09 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: SunkenCiv

The Monte Verde site was unlikely to have been able to support the kind of vegetation that those animals needed to eat,”

BUT

‘the terrain was more walkable than the surrounding bogs and wetlands...it was a runoff area...crisscrossed by a network of shallow streams and brooks fed by rain washing off the glacier, as well as melting snow.”

Does the description sound like it is logical? I don’t think you’d have hunters going too far away to hunt and then drag the meat back home to eat?


22 posted on 11/21/2015 3:44:36 PM PST by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a murderer, and find one.... what's your plan?)
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