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JFK, Lee Harvey Oswald- and 50 years of conspiracy nonsense
YouTube ^ | November 22, 2013 | ABC/BBC

Posted on 10/25/2015 12:04:55 PM PDT by NRx

I am wearing my asbestos underwear for this one.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; History
KEYWORDS: agitprop; astroturf; conspiracytheory; geraldposner; jfk; jfkassassination; oswaldwasapatsy; paidrussiantrolls; pravda; putinsbuttboys; russia; russianstooge; russianstooges; russiatoday; tass; vladtheimploder
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To: ConservativeDude
"check out Roger Stone’s excellent book on how LBJ killed Kennedy. It is very good, and very convincing."

That book has made me re-think some of my Oswald alone beliefs.

Simon really nails that sumbitch Johnson to the wall.

LBJ HAS to be the worst person to become POTUS.

101 posted on 10/25/2015 6:49:56 PM PDT by boop (Those aren't...credit cards...)
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To: Ditter

and That is the Fact that Proves Oswald was setup,the sixth floor shots were a distraction from the real hitters below.
Oswald was a junior spook used as the Patsy as he called himself.
The sixth floor snippers nest still holds the Answer.


102 posted on 10/25/2015 6:58:53 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Roger Stone
interesting character Worked for Trump till six months ago.

Crenshaw wrote a book from the perspective of Parkland hospital,.
Trauma Room,
or some such,

LBJ and Hoover ,in cahoots.
It had to be handled from the Top and always has been.

Slick Willie said He would open it up too.
I remember applauding that.


103 posted on 10/25/2015 7:35:34 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: boop

Roger Stone,
will look for his book,
thanks.


104 posted on 10/25/2015 7:45:59 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Karl Spooner

The elapsed time for the three shots actually begins when the first shot is fired. Former Marine and WW II veteran, William Manchester: “Indeed, three (shots) could have been within the crucial time span. Afterward it was argued that this was impossible, since fewer than six seconds elapsed between the first shot and the third, and tests demonstrate that at least 2.3 seconds were required to operate the bolt on Oswald’s rifle. The arithmetic went: 2.3 + 2.3 + 2.3 = 6.9. It was a trick. A correct calculation would be as follows : the first shot is fired, 2.3 seconds pass; the second shot is fired, 2.3 seconds pass; the third shot is fired. Total elapsed time: 4.6 seconds.” Manchester also wrote (page 95 of The Death of a President): “A subsequent controversy developed over whether or not shots fired from the warehouse on November 22 had been difficult ones, and echoes of the dispute are heard today. Here the author must appear briefly as an expert witness. This writer has carefully examined the site in Dallas and once qualified as an Expert Rifleman on the U.S. Marine Corps range at Parris Island, S.C., firing the M-1 rifle, as Oswald did, from 500, 300, and 200 yards. From the sixth floor in the Book Depository Oswald would look down on a slowly drifting target less than ninety yards away, and his scope brought it within twenty-two yards. At that distance, with his training, he could scarcely have missed.” No matter, as someone has already posted people will believe what they want to. Three shots were fired, there were three spent shells, with all three shots distinctly heard by people on the fifth floor directly beneath the sniper’s roost. All evidence proves conclusively that those bullets were fired from the rifle found on the sixth floor to the exclusion of every other rifle on earth. It’s just not that complicated. And if there were shots from the grassy knoll (as suggested by that fool Oliver Stone) by an alleged gunman, ostensibly one of the Mafia’s finest, then how is it that firing at point-blank range he missed the entire car and everyone in it and that the bullet was never recovered? This stuff really gets silly after a while. Ditto, the magic bullet. That so called “magic bullet” is also absolutely absurd. The “single bullet theory” is correct and was formulated two months after the assassination. Jacob Cohen, writing in the June, 1992 issue of Commentary: “Now if the bullet found in the basement of Parkland Hospital next to Connally’s stretcher, fired from Oswald’s gun and missing the very lead found in Connally’s wrist, is not the one which struck Connally, how did it get next to Connally’s stretcher? Stone suggests that someone from Assassination Central was sent over to drop a spare bullet somewhere in the hospital. Why the basement? Why Connally’s stretcher and not Kennedy’s? How could it have known then that a bullet which ended in the soft flesh of Connally’s thigh needed to be placed with his stretcher in order to confirm a single-bullet theory which was not developed for another two months? And if this not the bullet that hit Connally, what happened to the bullet that did?” Just so. And also remember that the entry wound in Connally was elongated in shape, indicating that it was the result of a tumbling bullet. There was no conspiracy, and Oswald acted alone. Sherlock Holmes was right: “How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?” This silliness will never end as there’s an endless supply of crackpots out there that fancy themselves experts in conspiracies that don’t exist. But again, I’m not trying to convince anyone. At bottom, people believe what they want to believe.


105 posted on 10/25/2015 7:49:26 PM PDT by donaldo
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To: boop
Robert Caro wrote LBJs biography, 3 huge volumes. I remember that some time during my reading of those books, when I realized how desperate LBJ was to be president, a light came on in my mind.............he did it!

When you got to see LBJ and realize the person he was.......It was the only way he could be president, take over from JFK!

106 posted on 10/25/2015 7:56:22 PM PDT by Ditter (God Bless Texas!)
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To: donaldo

calling Me a Crackpot?


107 posted on 10/25/2015 7:59:19 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: donaldo

You’ve been here for ten years,
and post a block of verbiage like that?
Unreadable.


108 posted on 10/25/2015 8:06:09 PM PDT by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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To: NRx
After that, it is total fiction.

It gets a four star rating though from the movie raters on my cable channel. Many libs still firmly believe evil conservatives were responsible. They just can't accept it that a commie killed Kennedy.

109 posted on 10/25/2015 8:26:58 PM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: Ditter

Yeah !

Paragraphs are You’re Friend!


110 posted on 10/25/2015 8:37:19 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Big Red Badger

No, of course not.


111 posted on 10/25/2015 8:46:13 PM PDT by donaldo
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To: sparklite2

Most of it are quotes from two distinguished writers. I’ve given you an argument, am I obliged to give you understanding?


112 posted on 10/25/2015 8:48:05 PM PDT by donaldo
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To: donaldo

Who the hell cares? I have no argumentative point to make. What you posted is unreadable.


113 posted on 10/25/2015 8:51:07 PM PDT by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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To: sparklite2

Indeed it is, to someone who can’t read.


114 posted on 10/25/2015 8:53:34 PM PDT by donaldo
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To: Big Red Badger

You are correct. I should have used paragraphs. I’d edit it if I could. Is there anyway to edit a post?


115 posted on 10/25/2015 8:56:28 PM PDT by donaldo
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To: donaldo

Never mind, I’ll do it this way.
The elapsed time for the three shots actually begins when the first shot is fired. Former Marine and WW II veteran, William Manchester: “Indeed, three (shots) could have been within the crucial time span. Afterward it was argued that this was impossible, since fewer than six seconds elapsed between the first shot and the third, and tests demonstrate that at least 2.3 seconds were required to operate the bolt on Oswald’s rifle. The arithmetic went: 2.3 + 2.3 + 2.3 = 6.9. It was a trick. A correct calculation would be as follows : the first shot is fired, 2.3 seconds pass; the second shot is fired, 2.3 seconds pass; the third shot is fired. Total elapsed time: 4.6 seconds.”
Manchester also wrote (page 95 of The Death of a President): “A subsequent controversy developed over whether or not shots fired from the warehouse on November 22 had been difficult ones, and echoes of the dispute are heard today. Here the author must appear briefly as an expert witness. This writer has carefully examined the site in Dallas and once qualified as an Expert Rifleman on the U.S. Marine Corps range at Parris Island, S.C., firing the M-1 rifle, as Oswald did, from 500, 300, and 200 yards. From the sixth floor in the Book Depository Oswald would look down on a slowly drifting target less than ninety yards away, and his scope brought it within twenty-two yards. At that distance, with his training, he could scarcely have missed.”
No matter, as someone has already posted people will believe what they want to. Three shots were fired, there were three spent shells, with all three shots distinctly heard by people on the fifth floor directly beneath the sniper’s roost. All evidence proves conclusively that those bullets were fired from the rifle found on the sixth floor to the exclusion of every other rifle on earth. It’s just not that complicated.
And if there were shots from the grassy knoll (as suggested by that fool Oliver Stone) by an alleged gunman, ostensibly one of the Mafia’s finest, then how is it that firing at point-blank range he missed the entire car and everyone in it and that the bullet was never recovered? This stuff really gets silly after a while.
Ditto, the magic bullet. That so called “magic bullet” is also absolutely absurd. The “single bullet theory” is correct and was formulated two months after the assassination. Jacob Cohen, writing in the June, 1992 issue of Commentary: “Now if the bullet found in the basement of Parkland Hospital next to Connally’s stretcher, fired from Oswald’s gun and missing the very lead found in Connally’s wrist, is not the one which struck Connally, how did it get next to Connally’s stretcher? Stone suggests that someone from Assassination Central was sent over to drop a spare bullet somewhere in the hospital. Why the basement? Why Connally’s stretcher and not Kennedy’s? How could it have known then that a bullet which ended in the soft flesh of Connally’s thigh needed to be placed with his stretcher in order to confirm a single-bullet theory which was not developed for another two months? And if this not the bullet that hit Connally, what happened to the bullet that did?” Just so. And also remember that the entry wound in Connally was elongated in shape, indicating that it was the result of a tumbling bullet.
There was no conspiracy, and Oswald acted alone. Sherlock Holmes was right: “How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?” This silliness will never end as there’s an endless supply of crackpots out there that fancy themselves experts in conspiracies that don’t exist. But again, I’m not trying to convince anyone. At bottom, people believe what they want to believe.


116 posted on 10/25/2015 9:01:48 PM PDT by donaldo
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To: donaldo

It’s etched in stone FRiend.


117 posted on 10/25/2015 9:02:17 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Big Red Badger

I copied and pasted it with paragraphs and indentions but the indentions didn’t print out in the post.


118 posted on 10/25/2015 9:06:29 PM PDT by donaldo
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To: NRx

Operation 40/Mongoose


119 posted on 10/25/2015 9:07:18 PM PDT by Despot of the Delta
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To: Ditter
Yes. As Roger Stone points out in his LBJ book, Johnson had several people killed on his way to the top.

He had at least one "personal" hitman who iced opponents.

Johnson knew that Kennedy was going to dump him from the 1964 ticket, and there was plenty of dirty laundry, (involving how he got so damn rich) that was going to hit the press/ Congress and ruin LBJ, maybe even send him to the slammer.

All of that "disappeared" once JFK was killed.

120 posted on 10/25/2015 10:49:01 PM PDT by boop (Those aren't...credit cards...)
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