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Ruh-roh. This could mean war!! :-)
1 posted on 10/22/2015 9:53:06 AM PDT by dayglored
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To: Swordmaker

Hi Sword... better get over here pronto! :-)


2 posted on 10/22/2015 9:53:36 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored; Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; Alas Babylon!; amigatec; ...
THREE times as fast?!? ... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

3 posted on 10/22/2015 9:54:26 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

Flame war to ensue.


4 posted on 10/22/2015 9:57:02 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame enobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: dayglored

Incoming.


5 posted on 10/22/2015 9:59:46 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: dayglored

I just wish I didnt have to have Trump money to get one, but then again I guess I really dont need that much power to just use Visual Studio and some graphics programs.


7 posted on 10/22/2015 10:03:44 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: dayglored

And it gives the Blue Screen of Death how often?
Installation includes viruses, malware and adware-free of charge!

You need to setup your phone wn printers, find the right drivers, etc. all on your own?

It can’t be all upside, no?

I run on an Mac-and they have problems also, but MANY fewer. For corporate work I run VMWare with multiple MS environments.


9 posted on 10/22/2015 10:05:38 AM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: dayglored
They are comparing a laptop without a separate GPU (the Macbook Pro 13) to a laptop that has a separate GPU(the Surface Pro).

The benchmarks that don't can't use a GPU show almost no difference. The graphic benchmarks show a big difference.

What a surprise.

The MacBook Pro 15 has an optional AMD Radeon GPU. But, it's also quad-core and substantially more expensive than the Surface Pro and the Macbook Pro 13.

So yes: it's nice that Microsoft managed to cram a GPU in a laptop and keep the price down. But, you have to decide if your typical usage can take advantage of the GPU.

12 posted on 10/22/2015 10:10:23 AM PDT by justlurking
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To: dayglored

Hmmm... Does the Surface time include regular daily system updates, virus scans, driver updates, malware scans, etc?


13 posted on 10/22/2015 10:12:46 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: dayglored

So, one takes three blinks of an eye, the other two.

Microsoft still has a crappy OS, mainly because they are always a couple decades (or more) behind Apple in ease of use of their machines.

Yawn.


15 posted on 10/22/2015 10:15:52 AM PDT by detch
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To: dayglored

Here’s the thing. No one will really care. I was a PC guy way back when for a LONG time and it’s all about the OS. Speed really doesn’t matter quite like it used to unless you are a gamer (I am not) or into video production (again, not me),

Once you switch to Mac, and you like it, there is no way you’ll switch operating systems. Interestingly, PCs and Mac are a tru apples and oranges comparison. You are going to like one or the other and stick with it. The proof is in the iPhone. It is not the fastest, nor arguably the “best” phone on the market ... but people really don’t switch.

It’s going to take a better wheel to create any significant change in market share.


22 posted on 10/22/2015 10:27:56 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: dayglored
I just downloaded El Capitan to my '09 MacBook Pro. Runs flawlessly. Thing was built like a tank.

Let's revisit this thread six years from now to see how these Surface Books are holding up.

32 posted on 10/22/2015 10:45:23 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: dayglored

Apple is slipping back into it’s me-too hardware niche position. That’s why Apple is pushing this big brother, services approach.


35 posted on 10/22/2015 10:52:53 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: dayglored

“Why can’t we all just get along?”

:-)

We have both a Windows PC and a MacBook Pro. I want to move into iOS / OSX app development, so I am mainly on the Mac now...immersion learning so to speak. I have come to prefer the OSX UI. I also still use Windows and develop on Linux & Windows at work now. Prior to what I do now, I spent 25 years in the UNIX world. My wife is content to stay on Windows, so we will have both for the foreseeable future.

I am looking to upgrade our entry level PC (and she would like to get the mobile experience I have with my MacBook), so I have been looking at the Surface Pro 4 with a docking station to replace the desktop and add mobility...I am very impressed with what I have read so far.

The current desktop will become a Linux box to play with as well.


39 posted on 10/22/2015 10:59:32 AM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: dayglored

Wow. Microsoft leap frogged Apple big time!


48 posted on 10/22/2015 11:15:55 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: dayglored

More proof what a rip-off Apple products are.


51 posted on 10/22/2015 11:23:56 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dayglored
As a longtime user of Windows products who was introduced eighteen months ago to iOS I can state one major benefit of iOS over Windows:
My blood pressure has come down ten points and my stress problem has halved.
71 posted on 10/22/2015 1:00:57 PM PDT by moose07 (DMCS (Dit Me Cong San ) - Nah)
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To: dayglored

The advantage of the Surface Pro is you have Windows 10 and android and can draw and paint as well. It is expensive!

There are several laptops out there for several hundred less that. They have touch. They do not have the android ability or draw & paint.


81 posted on 10/22/2015 2:16:08 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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