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The Zombie Programmers Awaken ... and they're pretty tetchy [SunTrust]
The Register ^ | 10/22/15 | Dominic Connor

Posted on 10/22/2015 2:12:22 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

That’s great...I just sent it on to a bunch of people I know...:)

Thing is, I can accept that a company might lay people off, and if it were me, I would never, ever consider anything like sabotage. It just isn’t in my nature.

But what that company did...I cannot get my head around it. That is evil. I still have a hard time believing it.


41 posted on 10/22/2015 8:48:04 AM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant)
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To: wbill

Outsourcing critical engineering is always a loser. Call centers are the most popular outsourcing solution, and even that’s a mixed bag. Americans generally do not want to deal with Indian call takers. So now, they’re outsourcing to eastern Europe and Mexico, which I find amusing.

Anytime a company at which I’ve worked has outsourced anything bigger than Tier One (e.g. Call Center), it’s been a colossal failure. Even “certified” professionals in foreign countries generally can’t hold a candle to domestic resources.


42 posted on 10/22/2015 8:48:46 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Most of these kind of severance conditions are unenforceable. Especially since this one says you only need to be “reasonably available”. Sign it, take the money, and don’t be available.


43 posted on 10/22/2015 8:50:49 AM PDT by discostu (Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right B, A, Start)
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To: wbill

I remember it well. “We’re putting together a weekends team to fix the Bangalore code, who wants to volunteer?”


44 posted on 10/22/2015 8:53:24 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: AppyPappy

LOL, yes...everyone is supposed to document extensively to the point someone could just pick it up who was unfamiliar with it and figure it out.

Of course...but only if you sprinkle it with some of that special unicorn horn dust...


45 posted on 10/22/2015 8:54:54 AM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant)
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To: dfwgator

Heh, I used to know a self-professed “technology ignoramus” guy of few words who used to walk by me in the hall and mutter in a heavy Lebanese accent “F-Disk.”

That is all he would say, nearly inaudibly.

I don’t know why, but coming from him, in that way, with that heavy accent seems really funny to me.


46 posted on 10/22/2015 9:05:52 AM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant)
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To: Wolfie
I know an independent who's made an excellent living doing code remediation. It's for systems that have been outsourced overseas, utterly screwed up, then brought back in-house.

He's *very* comfortable, and has more work than he knows what to do with. Been that way for years, too. Probably a couple of decades worth.

47 posted on 10/22/2015 9:20:24 AM PDT by wbill
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To: rlmorel

I have yet to meet a foreign programmer who documents. Or a domestic one for that matter.

“Dammit Jim, I’m a programmer, not an author”


48 posted on 10/22/2015 10:18:20 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: Parmenio; ColdOne; Yossarian; knittnmom; sf4dubya; Mr. Peabody; wally_bert; dowcaet; ...
H-1B ping. Let me know if you're not on the list and want to be added (or are and want to be removed).
49 posted on 10/22/2015 10:28:05 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: AppyPappy

Heh, I visualized McCoy saying that!

I try, but sometimes I think of some poor guy trying to follow my byzantine logic by following my comments, which make sense to ME...


50 posted on 10/22/2015 10:30:30 AM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant)
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To: bert
perhaps it should be considered as not severance but as a retainer

So then NOBODY gets severance... that's not right.

51 posted on 10/22/2015 10:31:28 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: the_individual2014
The H1B program is so evil it is not funny, we should do it like Japan where companies are free to hire foriegners as long as they have a visa, however they need pay them 25% more for that position, works out for them.

I agree. H1B IT people and other entry level foreigners are here for one reason - they are working cheaper than the highly skilled and costly American workers they replace. If companies had to pay the equivalent American wages and added costs of importing labor there might be be more openings for entry level American workers. Right now there are plenty of unemployed American IT workers and college graduates with IT degrees willing to replace the H1Bs at prevailing wages.

But poor management, bean counters, and other diversity and politically correct types are jeopardizing quality to save a few bucks. While managers come and go, the screwed up and orphaned systems remain long after they're gone. Good IT technical people are an asset, not a liability to the companies they work for. Good management knows that.

52 posted on 10/22/2015 11:35:22 AM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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To: AppyPappy

Anyone who wants to keep their job shouldn’t document anything; they’re just creating user manuals for their replacements. In some tech & finance positions, the stuff is so boring that the person responsible for documenting (often not a tech or finance person themselves) falls asleep after the first 1/2 hour...


53 posted on 10/22/2015 6:23:53 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: wbill
I've no idea why people do it. Arrogance, I suppose. "This has failed every other time, but only because *I* haven't tried it yet!".

Kinda like socialism and it's big brother, communism.

54 posted on 11/10/2015 9:57:22 AM PST by zeugma (Teach your child a love for motorcycles, and he'll never have money for drugs.)
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To: NorthMountain
How many folks on this forum know what a BOFH is without looking it up? How many people on this forum have ever been a BOFH?

This is on my personal website: The Bastard Operator From Hell Collection

55 posted on 11/10/2015 10:05:18 AM PST by zeugma (Teach your child a love for motorcycles, and he'll never have money for drugs.)
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To: rlmorel
LOL, yes...everyone is supposed to document extensively to the point someone could just pick it up who was unfamiliar with it and figure it out.

HA! Even if your company is lucky enough to have people who document, and document well, it still requires the new guy to have the knowledge to apply the code. If he isn't trained well enough to read the code, I doubt documentation is going to help him understand it all. Docs just help explain what the code is doing in English, not code. Easier to thread/troubleshoot stuff, but it can;t teach someone who doesn't know enough in the first place.
56 posted on 11/10/2015 10:25:46 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: zeugma

Time flies ...


57 posted on 11/10/2015 10:33:58 AM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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