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Everyone Who Wanted More F-22s Is Being Proven Right
Foxtrot Alpha ^ | 9/25/2015 | Tyler Rogoway

Posted on 09/30/2015 10:53:06 AM PDT by InsidiousMongo

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Looks like many of us really were right. Given the situation in Russia right now, the F-22 would be a great deterrent and a threat to the Soviet invasion in the ME.
1 posted on 09/30/2015 10:53:06 AM PDT by InsidiousMongo
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I didn’t even get one.


2 posted on 09/30/2015 10:53:54 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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Well don’t they have to spend OUR money on Syrian refugees, Mexican refugees, and all the South American refugees.

After all we are a racist country! We don’t need no stinkin’ fighter’s to protect our country!


3 posted on 09/30/2015 11:05:03 AM PDT by notaliberal (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle,)
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If you had enough F22s, you could afford a fleet of dirt cheap A10s to fill out the force. But noooo, we have to spend a $trillion on a paperweight.


4 posted on 09/30/2015 11:06:43 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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Didn’t they also destroy the tooling to insure that production could not resume?


5 posted on 09/30/2015 11:08:39 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: DaxtonBrown

A trillion dollars could build us enough F-22s and a bigger fleet! That is the sad part!


6 posted on 09/30/2015 11:09:06 AM PDT by InsidiousMongo
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To: Lx

We dont need them. The muslims are joining america and europe. Problem solved.


7 posted on 09/30/2015 11:14:49 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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A-10s is what we need.


8 posted on 09/30/2015 11:25:46 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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Yes, A-10s with more advanced avionics and fire control systems.


9 posted on 09/30/2015 11:40:32 AM PDT by InsidiousMongo
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In all honesty, the bulk of our aircraft buildup in the USAF should be F-22s and A-10s, rather than a do-all F-35.


10 posted on 09/30/2015 11:41:32 AM PDT by InsidiousMongo
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

This was my first clue as to how the Obama Presidency would unfold.


11 posted on 09/30/2015 11:43:52 AM PDT by StevieRay20
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To: Oldexpat

Probably sold it to China


12 posted on 09/30/2015 11:54:11 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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“You’re going to need the Raptors” for a high-end fight, he said

In a "high-end fight", what's the anticipated loss rate? And how fast can the lost ones be replaced?

13 posted on 09/30/2015 11:59:16 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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Given the fact that the F-22’s tooling is still intact, it would not be impossible for the next presidential candidate that actually has a brain to arrange a contract with Lockheed to reinstall the tooling for a production restart.

If this is a likely scenario, this new contract should be based on the construction of a more updated and advanced Raptor, an F-22C. Since the F-35 has been noted as a great leap forward in technology, some of its avionics (that work) can be installed in the Raptor as well as an advanced fire control system (JHMCS for off boresight engagement), and a variety of other tidbits to maintain the bird’s supremacy for decades to come.


14 posted on 09/30/2015 12:00:24 PM PDT by InsidiousMongo
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This is conditional based on a production line being restarted.

In a hypothetical scenario, an opposing country (Russia or otherwise) would probably be throwing Su-35s and T-50s at the F-22. I believe both would struggle at BVR engagements when it comes to spotting the Raptor. the Su-35 is a blimp on radar, and the T-50 maybe the size of a T-80 given those massive engines.


15 posted on 09/30/2015 12:03:36 PM PDT by InsidiousMongo
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........and faster, and stealthy...Oops, it isn’t an A-10 anymore..


16 posted on 09/30/2015 12:06:34 PM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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JHMCS actually isn’t that hard of an upgrade. The all aspect EO/IR, targeting system, and ability to carry 2x2k lbs J-weapons will be a tougher upgrade to fit on an F-22


17 posted on 09/30/2015 12:09:50 PM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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One thing I have been waiting for is the ability to carry low-RCS weapon pods. This could mean additional air-to-air ordnance stored on the wings for the F-22.

If I remember, the Raptor is capable of carrying on wing stations at the cost of stealth.


18 posted on 09/30/2015 12:12:28 PM PDT by InsidiousMongo
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i’m really tired of people doing everything that can to hurt or weaken this country and never being held accountable for it.


19 posted on 09/30/2015 12:15:27 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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I know they are plumbed for drop tanks, don't know about other things. I know they made mods to squeeze 1000 lbs weapons inside, but those would have to be GPS guided weapons.

One thing that is accurate about this article is the effect of additional purchases on the unit price. With the purchase of the E/A-18G the unit cost of strike fighter models went down. Boeing has been advertising that they will provide new aircraft with low RCS weapons pods for no additional cost.

20 posted on 09/30/2015 12:48:36 PM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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