Posted on 09/17/2015 5:16:28 AM PDT by xzins
she said the BABY is on the video...she did NOT say the HARVESTING is on the video - which I believe is your contention.
Wow. What is the media saying? I haven’t seen anything.
True about Cruz, but I have a theory: I have worked with one of his senior communications guys, maybe THE senior coms guy - and that guy is a disaster...too cautious, not in touch with the base....I wonder if he’s giving Cruz bad advice (like he did to Newt, to Rick Perry, to Newts PAC, and to Todd Akin...going of for FOUR in just the 2012 cycle!
I'm no Carley fan. She was awarded tens of millions of dollars as CEO for a company that did horribly, then given tens of millions more when she was fired. That never came up. Makes me wonder if anyone on that stage except Trump isn't in bed with the puppetmasters.
That being said, she does have a strength. She's powerful and inspirational on the emotional issues. When she spoke about losing a child to drugs and about how we have to combat the pure evil (my words not hers) of Planned Parenthood, she did in a way that inspires people,
Contrasted to hillary, our side's gal has a human side. There's does not. JMHO
She was speaking as a witness to the video.
Her impression, as was mine, was that when she saw the fully formed baby on the table while the girl was talking about how she was instructed to cut up a baby while it’s heart was still beating was that she could see it happening.
She saw it. I saw it. I pictured it in my mind as clear as if I was in the room.
It made me sick.
For anyone to criticize her because what she saw was not on the film, they would have to view the film themselves and not just talk about it.
I dare planned parenthood to challenge her on this. If they do then they will have to show the film to the public.
They won’t. They can’t.
I can just hear Obama now. “I watched those videos and I saw lots of baby parts and lots of discussion about harvesting brains lungs and livers for profit. I heard them talking about a baby’s heart beating before they cut the baby’s face open for the brain, but I NEVER saw a baby on a table with a beating heart before they cut his brain out so all is well”.
My contention is as I wrote, that she clearly gives the impression that “it’s” heart, legs, etc. can be seen as the discussion is held about harvesting “it”.
Those are her words. Not mine.
My contention is that she misrepresented....which she did.
That was her best answer of the night and it was exaggerated. Great!
My contention is that she wasn’t clear enough perhaps, but did not try to deceive intentionally - this whole discussion seems like straining gnats while swallowing camels.
Obama won’t talk about it. He’s not running.
She did not see what she said she saw. She misrepresented.
I don’t care for Carly but this is just silly. It was an intact fetus. Most likely born alive for the sole purpose of harvesting organs. Anyone that watches the videos will not come away and fault Carly. If you think people will say to themselves, “Oh, harvesting organs from intact babies is terrible and their heartless bastards, but Carly was wrong I will forgive them.”
If she gets people to watch the videos for any reason, it is a victory.
Of course. He only talks about things that can't be redirected to a failed policy of his. That's becoming fewer and fewer topics.
There may not be live shots of the actual harvesting, but there are live shots of live babies they intend to be harvesting from:
Here’s a video with a baby alive and moving and being held. This is probably what Fiorina was talking about...I don’t know:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzMAycMMXp8
The videos show not only human babies who have been aborted and technicians picking through their bodies, but also a baby that is premature in birth a around 20 weeks. This is an everyday occurrence in second and third term abortion facilities every day. That is NOT an argument that PP wants to get into.
Their entire strategy and that of the MSM is to keep people from seeing the videos, not refuting them.
The subject matter and cold hard facts are indisputable to those who have seen the videos.
I think you are technically correct, but I wonder how a PP supporter would deal with it. I would think any mention of a live baby, beating heart, brain removal would be toxic to PP. Pointing out that the video doesn’t show the baby in question, only a technician talking about it wouldn’t seem to help their cause, but I am sure they can twist it to meet their ends.
She misrepresented for effect. I don’t want that, and especially in this issue of life.
She ‘challenged’ people to go look, and now some will do it and not be able to see what she said was there.
Like I said, having followed this closely, I caught the misrepresentation immediately. I don’t think I’m all that astute, so I expected to see it in the media. It is.
But, if she’s the nominee, it will show up again.
“It opens it to the charge of emotionalism for effect and to charges of hearsay evidence because of her misrepresentation.”
Yea, no it wont. Fist of all it didn’t make as big of an
impact as people are playing it up to be. Fiorina did ok
but she’s just being blown up to be some kind of winner
of this debate and by the end of the week she’ll be a
dud again. This Fiorina fawning is all forced out like a fart. It’s just the media helping the GOPe pick the only
candidate that can loose against the democrats. Like they
did the last two elections. Like Bush, she’s just another liberal
pretending to be a republican.
In all reality she should have been in and a few of the lower polling candidates should have been out. She is consistently polling in the higher end of the pool. Her demeanor was also very hard edged and that exactly backs up what Trump said about her face. Very harsh, not unattractive, stern.
It won’t be dealt with by a PP supporter. It will be dealt with if she’s the eventual nominee.
It will be about her misrepresenting for emotional effect in a campaign ad, a debate, a roundtable discussion.
When she lost in California, what did they hit her with? What did they use against her?
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