Posted on 09/03/2015 12:43:44 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Did I hear Rush say that we should be willing to vote for Trump even with all of his baggage and left leaning positions and support for Democrats!?
He said the RNC told us to support McCain and Romney (and I think he threw Bush in there) so we should have no trouble supporting Trump.
That's some kind of rallying cry for conservatives.
So would someone please tell me what Trump stands for (other than saying he'll build the fence and deport gang members), and why (other than you want to believe that he has changed) why anyone would trust him.
I'll give you 2 reasons why I know Donald Trump finds it easy and appropriate to lie. (Current history - I'll leave the long, documented list of his liberal ideological positions aside for this exercise, along with Trump's long, documented list of his support for elected Democrat leaders.)
1. He lied (more than once despite it having been proven a lie) that Wisconsin was doing poorly and that it was because of Scott Walker.
2. He lied about a Walker supporter coming to him asking to take him on to his campaign because he wanted to leave Walker.
And here is a third because it is about FReepers willing to repeat lies about candidates to promote their candidate.
If you believe that your candidate is the best thing for the country, then there should be NO REASON to actively spam threads of other candidates with lies.
Your turn.
Rush loves golf too, right? They share that bond.
For those who might remember the 2012 election cycle, she did exactly the same for Perry that she has been doing for Walker, until he embarrassed her. Then she went quiet. WHOOPS!
I love Trump because I see him as payback.
I really luv Trump when I see Jeb and/or Karl Rove....or Mitch McConnell or John Boehner.
None of them know what to do wikth the Donald!
Most of all, I think Trump will ...more than any other candidate...try to undo a lot of what Obama has done.
I like Trump's attack on PC.
Bush has almost no rank and file support from our side. I believe his only voters will be Democrats looking to install the softest target.
You’re right. Just being glad to vote For someone again is something to really be thankful for.
Yes, Rush and Donald have big egos and so does Obama. Most conservatives have seen Obama’s narcissism as a vice and Rush’s as joke. Now, it maybe three peas in a pod.
To prove what a hack you are: quotes of Walker are proof here is no good. Quotes from Trump are forgiven and ignored.
Walker has a near perfect conservative RECORD as governor....you ignore it. Trump has a near perfect record as a liberal....you ignore it.
Well, Rush knows that the GOPe hates Trump with a passion because he’s brash and...horrors, vulgar. And, of course, he doesn’t have to depend on them or their donors. So their dislike is cynical and corrupt. You, on the other hand, have an actual problem with some of Trump’s positions. That is neither corrupt or cynical.
Me neither. Trump is great entertainment and he is currently useful in terms of smacking the GOPe fools and the media around, but he's no conservative.
Cruz or Lose.
Then answer one question.
How do you know what Trump will do if he’s in the White House?
bttt!
You would not have to give any out if you Trump supporters has any SUBSTANCE to your candidate. Instead, you just attack those who disagree with him on a personal level.
I guess that is what liberals do.
Immigration is THE most important issue of this election. If we lose on it, then NO OTHER ISSUE MATTERS. Why? Because “losing” is defined as: some kind of amnesty. Such an action would bring millions, perhaps tens of millions, of votes to the Dems on a permanent basis (immigrants vote 8-2 for the Dems). Every state would end up with the politics of California...AND WE WILL LOSE ON EVERY OTHER ISSUE THAT WE CARE ABOUT - taxes, abortion, gun control, the budget, marriage, freedom of religion, foreign policy, national defense - you name it, we will lose.
“So, what’s the point?” you may ask. Here it is: Trump, for all of his ideological and personal flaws (and they are many) is the ONLY candidate who is, at the same time, calling for an uber-effective border fence/wall, calling for deportations of illegals, calling for the reversal of birthright citizenship, calling for the elimination of “anchor baby” status and...who can also win because he isn’t afraid to fight. Walker can fight, but he’s squishy on immigration. Cruz can fight, but the Dems and the GOPe hate him, questioning whether he is electable. Trump, OTOH, has attracted many Dems and Indies (yes, partly because he isn’t a doctrinaire conservative). Trump can also finance himself quite well - something that he doesn’t need GOPe help with, thankfully - and no other candidate can say that.
OK, let’s address the “he’s not a doctrinaire conservative” thing: No, he’s not perfect, far from it. However, no one is - even Reagan did things that he campaigned against (though pretty rarely). One thing that Reagan advised was that you never get everything you want in politics - but that if you get 70%, you should take it and run away. More to the point, no less than General George S. Patton, Jr. stated that, “The perfect is the enemy of the good.”
This election is the most important since 1860, and for the same reason: at stake is whether the nation occupying this geographic space will be recognizable to all of us as the nation where we were raised - or not. If we lose on immigration by electing a Dem or the wrong Republican (”wrong” defined as “unwilling to build an effective wall and unwilling to toss out illegals”), then The United States of America is simply OVER, to be replaced by some other entity that we won’t recognize, and which we will hate.
“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.” - Ronaldus Maximus.
NOW IS THE TIME to fight and protect our nation, to be able to hand a free country to our kids and grandkids. If our messenger or our designated fighter is less than perfect in our eyes...well, that just means that he, we and this Earth are less than perfect. But at least let’s preserve our nation - we can fight over smaller issues later. Also, keep in mind that if Trump does what he has promised to do, then this nation will be a good deal more conservative in 5-10 years - that will do wonders for all of the other issues, and allow us to be more discriminating in our choice of leaders.
Oh, you still believe in Ted Cruz?
No wonder you fall for Trump's BS as well.
Cruz is a slimy, two-face weasel on the level of John Kerry. Cruz sold out the constitution for his masters in the US Chamber of Commerce multiple times now.
Cruz will be great with Trump and hand out all those work permits to illegals that the US Chamber is asking for. After all, that is what he inserted into the Gang of 8 bill....work permits for illegals, creating a second class citizen in this country who can work here, but not vote here.
I’m not a Trump supporter, dumbass. Go whine in CW’s lap.
And it really shouldn't cause so much bitterness and hostility.
One candidate may be a better bet than another, but voting for anybody is taking a gamble.
I’m more than a little concerned about the fact that Trump doesn’t seem terribly interested in the constitution combined with his true believers who openly state that they no longer care about it either.
I think the most likely scenario if Trump miraculously got elected would be impeachment and democrat rule for good.
...As opposed to a GOPe lackey talking puppet who can’t break out of Wisconsin.
I know that with everything else you said in that post, you don't care much about the Hispanic vote, but I have to spout off anyway, for the purpose of educating others...
...YEAH, SO WHAT?! Who cares about the Hispanic vote? Republicans shouldn't - most of it is in states where it doesn't matter, one way or the other. California, Texas, New Mexico, New York and New Jersey are definitely in one column or another, REGARDLESS of whether the Republicans get 0% or 100% of the Hispanic vote. Since so many Hispanics live in just those 5 states, the effect of the votes of the rest of them is negligible. Romney would have had to increase his share of the Hispanic vote from 27% to 71% to win in 2012 - but would only have needed 4% or so more of the white vote to win. Which one makes more sense to go after?
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