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To: Tau Food
In other words, bloodshed was the result of the failure by each side to give the other side what it wanted.

Except that one side had a moral and acknowledged right (1776) to get what it wanted. (Independence) The other side did not have a right to get what it wanted. (Subjugation)

Your argument is like saying that a rapist and a rape victim are morally equivalent; that each one fights to get what they want is true, but the moral difference between what one wants and what the other wants are not at all the same.

99 posted on 08/11/2015 9:18:34 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

I know that you believe that the secessionists were right and that the Union was wrong. So, this is all simple for you. People have tried to explain to you why they believe that the Union had a right to maintain the integrity of the USA, but you have rejected that reasoning and so you continue to believe as you believe. And, that’s okay. It’s okay that you disagree with other people about this matter and it’s okay that you’re unhappy with the way in which our history unfolded. It shouldn’t shock you to learn that I am unhappy with some of the things that happened in our nation’s history, too. It’s all very normal to feel that way.


100 posted on 08/11/2015 9:51:31 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Excellent post!


376 posted on 08/17/2015 2:55:21 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: DiogenesLamp; Tau Food; Molly Pitcher; x; rockrr
DiogenesLamp: "Except that one side had a moral and acknowledged right (1776) to get what it wanted.(Independence)
The other side did not have a right to get what it wanted. (Subjugation)

Your argument is like saying that a rapist and a rape victim are morally equivalent..."

Except that, as in most things, your views are delusions & myth -- it's not what really happened.

In fact, in early 1861, it was the Confederacy which was assaulting, "raping" and attempting to murder the United States of America, to the point of starting and formally declaring war against it.

Once war was declared against the United States, then Lincoln did what was necessary to win it, unconditionally, and to abolish the root cause of it: slavery.

That's the real truth of it, and Lost Causer myths are just nonsense.

449 posted on 08/18/2015 9:11:45 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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