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To: iowamark

The word is secession, no succession, and no, my great-grandfather did not fight for slavery. He fought to defend his home and state from Northern invasion.


2 posted on 08/11/2015 1:13:03 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing

Right? If you’re going to make an argument, at least use the proper words. That’s pathetic.


8 posted on 08/11/2015 1:19:32 PM PDT by TangledUpInBlue
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To: kaehurowing
The word is secession, no succession, and no, my great-grandfather did not fight for slavery. He fought to defend his home and state from Northern invasion.

Same as my GGGF, who was a Confederate cavalryman with Nathan Bedford Forest.

12 posted on 08/11/2015 1:23:32 PM PDT by ought-six (1u)
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To: kaehurowing; rockrr
The word is secession, no succession, and no, my great-grandfather did not fight for slavery. He fought to defend his home and state from Northern invasion.

I didn't realize your great-grandfather was the guy who started the war. It's good to know who to blame

If he wasn't responsible, if forces larger and more powerful than himself caused the thing, then his own motives for fighting may not tell us why the war started and we may have to look elsewhere for explanations.

21 posted on 08/11/2015 1:30:32 PM PDT by x
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To: kaehurowing
Does anyone seriously believe that thousands of Iowa, Michigan, and Ohio farm boys (not to mention the Irish in the cities) would have enlisted, marched South, fought, bled, and died to free the slaves? To save the Union, yes. To free the slaves? Well, if you believe that, I suggest you get an unlisted telephone number before some calls and convinces you to purchase a big bridge connecting San Francisco and Marin County.
22 posted on 08/11/2015 1:31:30 PM PDT by quadrant (1o)
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To: kaehurowing

The next civil war may be fought over the oppressive yoke of economic slavery that the producers of society (read: white people) suffer so as to support the lazy and the indolent who, btw, hate me for the color of my skin.


41 posted on 08/11/2015 1:52:31 PM PDT by T-Bone Texan ('Zionists crept into my home and stole my shoe' - Headline)
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To: kaehurowing

Don’t you people ever get tired of that hoary old line?


73 posted on 08/11/2015 3:38:21 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: kaehurowing; iowamark; x; PeaRidge; rockrr; DiogenesLamp
kaehurowing: "...no, my great-grandfather did not fight for slavery.
He fought to defend his home and state from Northern invasion."

Nearly every Confederate state had counties or whole regions where slavery was rare to non-existent -- notably western Virginia, eastern Tennessee, western North Carolina, northern Arkansas and others, all of which remained loyal Unionists, and sent their young sons to serve the Union Army, not the Confederacy.

Those counties and regions did not consider the Union Army an "invasion force", but rather liberators who came to free both the slaves and themselves from the tyranny of Slavocratic Confederate government.

All told, Southern slave-states provided over 350,000 troops for the Union Army, at least two-thirds of whom were white.

So, why did over a million other Southerners serve in the Confederate army?
Because, like the Confederacy itself, they were willing to fight, kill or die to preserve, protect and defend their "peculiar institution", slavery.

270 posted on 08/15/2015 6:19:11 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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