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To: Above My Pay Grade

The order for her to exit the vehicle was not legal. The order came at the end of the trooper’s lawful reason for the stop. At that point, there is no longer a need for detainment via custodial stop. The officer did not like her smoking which she is legally allows to smoke in her own car. There is no need or cause for her to exit the vehicle. SCOTUS has also ruled that police and hold you only long enough to execute the stop.


12 posted on 07/22/2015 3:27:23 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

That is completely false. The stop was not yet complete. He had not given her the summons (warning actually) and told her she was free to go. If she had driven off at that point would she be in the clear?


14 posted on 07/22/2015 3:50:59 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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As for how long he held her, the whole stop would have been completed in under 10 minutes if the crazy, racist woman behaved in a civil manner.


17 posted on 07/22/2015 3:56:24 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: taxcontrol

When he went back to the car, he asked her if she was ok.. So how was she acting for him to ask her this question? We have no idea, but she could have been acting as though she was under the influence of something. Then he asked her if she was upset at which point she became verbally aggressive which could also be indicative of alcohol or drugs.

THEN he asked her to put the cigarette out...... He had already decided at that point, he was going to ask her to get out of the car and he didn’t want her getting out with a lit cigarette in her hand, possibly afraid of her burning him.


19 posted on 07/22/2015 4:00:01 PM PDT by Toespi
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