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To: Partisan Gunslinger
The hypothetical was a person declaring his property a new country. You said people have a right to do that.

If I say so, it's only because the Founders established the principle and set the Precedent. You might look at this document called "The Declaration of Independence" which spells out the pertinent concept.

Yep, it was treason against the king, and we had to fight to keep our land. The south didn't run their secession through the Congress so it was an illegal secession to begin with.

OMG. I feel like I'm arguing with children. The Founders didn't "run their secession through" Parliament. This means such a step is unnecessary when invoking a God given right to independence. Again, see the Declaration thereof. In the future, if you are going to make some inane observation, I would suggest you see if it applies to the founders first, and if it does, you need to not speak it, because it therefore makes no point useful to you.

Amazing to me Lincoln waited for an act of war before responding.

Obviously he didn't. Had you been reading the thread with the due diligence of someone interested in learning things, you would have discovered that Lincoln had launched an Invasion by Sea, and it was a fortuitous circumstance for him that the Confederates fired on Sumter. Had they not started shooting, He was going to do so. Again, read the thread more closely.

I'm not going to finish reading your message. You've flubbed important points three times, and I figure that's enough to bother with for one message.

608 posted on 07/30/2015 10:44:45 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
If I say so, it's only because the Founders established the principle and set the Precedent. You might look at this document called "The Declaration of Independence" which spells out the pertinent concept.

Morality was on the Founder's side, not so with the slavers.

OMG. I feel like I'm arguing with children. The Founders didn't "run their secession through" Parliament. This means such a step is unnecessary when invoking a God given right to independence.

The was no God-given right to murder those at Fort Sumter. Acts of states must be ran through the Congress as agreed to by the states in the Constitution.

Again, see the Declaration thereof. In the future, if you are going to make some inane observation, I would suggest you see if it applies to the founders first, and if it does, you need to not speak it, because it therefore makes no point useful to you.

The states agreed to the Constitution. Acts of states must be ran through the Congress.

Obviously he didn't. Had you been reading the thread with the due diligence of someone interested in learning things, you would have discovered that Lincoln had launched an Invasion by Sea, and it was a fortuitous circumstance for him that the Confederates fired on Sumter. Had they not started shooting, He was going to do so. Again, read the thread more closely.

LOL! So if the idiots surrounding Sumter had just waited there would have been an invasion? lol again!

I'm not going to finish reading your message. You've flubbed important points three times, and I figure that's enough to bother with for one message.

At least i know the difference between the Alamo and the Mexican War! lol!

609 posted on 07/30/2015 11:02:38 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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