[BroJoeK]

DiogenesLamp: "The consent of people who do not live there is irrelevant.
It is none of outsider's business what other people do with their own land."

But there was no civil war when Deep South secessionists first declared independence and a new Confederacy.

And there was no civil war even when the Confederacy many times provoked war by forcefully seizing Federal forts, ships, arsenal & mints.

And there was no civil war even when the Confederacy first threatened US officials and fired on Union ships (December 1860 through April 1861).

Civil War only began, and the first Confederate troops only died, after the Confederacy launched a military assault on Union forces in Union Fort Sumter (April 12, 1861), then formally declared war on the United States (May 6, 1861), then sent military aid to pro-Confederates in Missouri.

So Lincoln only did what the US Constitution requires him to do: defeated the military power attempting to destroy the United States.

[DiogenesLamp]

And there was no civil war even when the Confederacy many times provoked war by forcefully seizing Federal forts, ships, arsenal & mints.

You just gloss right over the fact that all such were in their own Territory. You also seemingly ignore the fact that they tried to talk compensation with Lincoln, but he refused to discuss the matter.

So Lincoln only did what the US Constitution requires him to do: defeated the military power attempting to destroy the United States.

There you go again with that 20% of the population "attempting to destroy" the other 80%. Do you have any idea how silly that sounds?

How about this? Do you have any grasp of a concept known as "objectivity"?