King of the hippies is way overrated.
Posted on 07/05/2015 5:48:58 PM PDT by Michael.SF.
Now he sounds like a whiner.
Paul wrote catchy riffs and cutesy words about love.
John wrote words capable of inspiring a serial killer to raise an army of serial killer disciples.
Forgets everything except the grudges.
I never really appreciated the Beatles. Still don’t.
We got away from "Tin Pan Alley" music for awhile but it's back.
And when George Martin cast the Beatles as an early boy band, he made them ditch the leather jackets for suits and had them sing "tin pan"/"brill" song factory covers and some ballads in with "their own contributions".
It took them a number of albums before they got to be 'themselves' and even that was song factory production. Paul got tired of it and suggested that they "become" Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band where they could write material that didn't fit the old "Beatle music" mold. And after that, they increasingly became soloists working on albums together (and keeping Ringo out of it).
Woodstock folkies brought us to an era of financially successful singer-songwriters but other bands still had music created for them (some bands were even offered a 'hit' that they did not write and wouldn't be recording in the studio, session musicians would be hired, they'd play it live and make the public appearances in print and on tv/radio).
We haven't gotten away from "tin pan alley", people just can't find "the building" anymore.
After their success with the Beatles, both Paul and John Had egos the size of Cleveland. And they both had remarkable success afterward. But I get where Paul is coming from with the “revisionism” remark. The death of a popular or beloved person tends to increase their “legend” or memory, sometimes out of proportion to their actual accomplishments. In short, there always was a rivalry between Paul and John and death doesn’t seem to have stopped it.
CC
Here they go again. Someone call Ringo.
King of the hippies is way overrated.
John Lennon could’ve had any chick in the world- he had to have lost a bet which is why he ended up with Yoko....
“I remember when Robert Christgau wrote, ‘they got the wrong Beatle.’ Insane.”
I always thought McCartney was the more talented. Just my opinion though....
I have cousins like that. Thankfully I’m Danish/German/English. We’re a pretty low drama bunch on my side.
He was doing acid when he met her. That answers a lot of the questions.
“John wrote words capable of inspiring a serial killer to raise an army of serial killer disciples.”
Wasn’t John a Communist? What side of the aisle do we find most, if not all, mass murderers on? The Left, of course!
“I always thought McCartney was the more talented. Just my opinion though....”
I agree
Though I think I’d rather hang out with Ringo
John Lennon is like Jame Dean in that the best thing that ever happened to his career is that he died.
Imagine no processions” - He couldn’t he was worth over 40 million when that dedicated public servant off him on a New York street
I play the Beatles on my guitar. Most of the songs with the best melody lines are McCartney's. They both wrote excellent songs, but that ended with the split. Then they both went downhill fast. After the split, Harrison's and yes, EVEN!!! Ringo's songs were better.
Had to look up “Tin Pan Alley.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_Pan_Alley
Tin Pan Alley is the name given to the collection of New York City music publishers and songwriters who dominated the popular music of the United States in the late 19th century and early 20th century. The name originally referred to a specific place: West 28th Street between Fifth and Sixth Avenue in Manhattan, and a plaque (see below) on the sidewalk on 28th Street between Broadway and Sixth commemorates it.
The start of Tin Pan Alley is usually dated to about 1885, when a number of music publishers set up shop in the same district of Manhattan. The end of Tin Pan Alley is less clear cut. Some date it to the start of the Great Depression in the 1930s when the phonograph and radio supplanted sheet music as the driving force of American popular music, while others consider Tin Pan Alley to have continued into the 1950s when earlier styles of American popular music were upstaged by the rise of rock & roll, for which the Brill Building served much the same role as Tin Pan Alley had.
The origins of the name “Tin Pan Alley” are unclear. One account claims that it was a derogatory reference to the sound of many pianos resembling the banging of tin pans. Another version claims the name stemmed from the way that songwriters modified their pianos so that they had a more percussive sound. After many years, the term came to refer to the U.S. music industry in general.
..and you would think that Paul could come up with one with all four extremities. I bring this up because it turns out she wasn’t a very nice person, either.
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