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The Fall and Rise and Fall of Pompeii
Smithsonian Magazine ^ | July 2015 | Joshua Hammer

Posted on 07/01/2015 5:37:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

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subtitle, "The famous archaeological treasure is falling into scandalous decline, even as its sister city Herculaneum is rising from the ashes".
Doomed by proximity to Vesuvius, the two cities of Pompeii and Herculaneum were entombed within a day. Accounts at the time documented the spread of the ash cloud beyond Rome, as far as Egypt and Syria. (Guilbert Gates)

Guilbert Gates

1 posted on 07/01/2015 5:37:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
A bunch of really nice photos, haven't finished the text but hit no teeth-jarring stupidity (like, "the eruption, were it to happen today, would be exacerbated by global warming"). The restoration of Neptune and Amphitrite is magnificent.

2 posted on 07/01/2015 5:39:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: SunkenCiv

Had the good fortune to have visited there this past April. The place is absolutely fascinating.


3 posted on 07/01/2015 5:39:19 PM PDT by cld51860 (Volo pro veritas)
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To: SunkenCiv
You are busy today!

Thanks for all your posts.

FMCDH(BITS)

4 posted on 07/01/2015 5:40:21 PM PDT by nothingnew (Hemmer and MacCullum are the worst on FNC)
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To: nothingnew

My pleasure, and thanks for the kind remarks!


5 posted on 07/01/2015 5:45:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: cld51860

That was good fortune. I’m glad something’s getting done, the complaints about the state of Pompeii have gone on for decades. There have been odd problems, like tourists picking up statues and carrying them right on out through holes in the fence, nighttime vandalism by the local gentry, public urination on ancient walls, just wonderful stuff.

OTOH, the place was buried by a volcanic eruption and unmaintained in any fashion for 17 centuries prior to discovery, so, we probably should cut the place some slack. The main reason Pompeii remains in large part unexcavated is that the already exposed parts were having this problems. There’s probably some real amazing stuff yet to be found under the soil, and none of us will ever get to see it, live or in photo.


6 posted on 07/01/2015 5:48:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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I wonder if some day, Naples will be covered with ash. I guess with modern volcano monitoring they will be able to leave but still it would be a catastrophe.


7 posted on 07/01/2015 5:50:02 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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There were a bunch of other towns that took some punishment, and possibly the new cities (including “Neapolis”, new city, the ancient name for Naples) completely cover the abandoned older places. Ercolano is the modern version of Herculaeneum, and was imposed on the modern city fairly recently I think, I don’t recall what the local modern name used to be. :’) To the east a little there was an estate that was a working farm and basically industrial site in the ancient Roman world; it got buried and only found in the last hundred years or less.

http://www.utexas.edu/courses/romanciv/Romancivimages18/bayofnaples.gif

http://www.utexas.edu/courses/romanciv/Romancivimages18/day18captions.htm

http://www.mmdtkw.org/ALRIVes0801VeseEruption79ad.jpg

http://www.mmdtkw.org/ALRItkwVes08CampiFlegrei.html

Then there’s Nola, which was destroyed 2000 years before that.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/nola/index


8 posted on 07/01/2015 6:28:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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Four years of Latin, two years of Roman Humanities: I have to go!


9 posted on 07/01/2015 6:29:34 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Democrats have destroyed more cities than Godzilla)
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To: cld51860

I’d like to go there some day myself. How much time would you suggest to see it adequately?


10 posted on 07/01/2015 6:34:24 PM PDT by Controlling Legal Authority (Author of "Are You Ready to Adopt?")
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To: SunkenCiv
 photo Pompeii 01_zpsaqqfq6su.jpg

 photo Pompeii 02_zpsmjxkefmc.jpg

11 posted on 07/01/2015 6:37:04 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: SunkenCiv

I was stationed in Naples, Italy from 1981 to 1984, USAF officer working at the NATO base there. I had the awesome opportunity to go to Herculaneum many times and I would sit for hours watching the archiologists as they uncovered the ruins. I also went to Pompei many times, it was in good shape and nothing was closed at that time. It was unbelieveable to see the intricacy of the spas and statues and the layout of the city. Just fascinating.


12 posted on 07/01/2015 6:37:35 PM PDT by ImNotLying
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13 posted on 07/01/2015 6:43:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: yarddog
whoops, sorry, the NOLA keyword includes hundreds of topics about New Orleans. Here are the relevant ones:
14 posted on 07/01/2015 6:44:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: Controlling Legal Authority

I went to Pompeii, it is in really bad shape. Dead people all over the place. Over run with tourists too.


15 posted on 07/01/2015 6:45:29 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ETL

Top row, middle photo: poor doggie.


16 posted on 07/01/2015 6:45:43 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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Nice! As you know, the Herculaneum site is actually better preserved, including a number of upper storeys, and lots of carbonized wood, including doors which still swing on their hinges. At an early time, the diggers noticed that the stone was lousy with tiny pores still filled with poison gases, making digging there a little challenging. :’)


17 posted on 07/01/2015 6:47:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: ETL

Thanks ETL!


18 posted on 07/01/2015 6:47:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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ETL’s photos, fourth row down, four across: bread?


19 posted on 07/01/2015 6:50:12 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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Yeah, there were a couple of place at least where bread was preserved, still in the ovens. Modestus was the baker’s name on the larger, better known bakery. :’)


20 posted on 07/01/2015 6:52:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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