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To: exit82
Another Freeper said it feels like 1859 in a 1938 world. I thought that to be an apt description of the times we live in today.

Damn if that doesn't say exactly what many of us are feeling.

It's why gun and ammo sales have been setting annual records over the last six years.
It's why the Dems lost over a thousand elections in 2014.
It's why we read so much dejected, hand-wringing, doom and gloom on this site.
It's why the red states are experiencing unprecedented levels of in-migration from the blue states.
I think it's also why the left has suddenly popped its cork, and are trying to realize every collectivist wet dream they've ever had.

We all feel a great reckoning of some kind approaching. The world (and this country) simply cannot continue on its present course. We're about to come completely off the rails of civilization. There are simply too many aspects of the culture that are crumbling, to sustain the 'thin veneer' much longer.

It's even hard to talk about this, as my thoughts run like a whirlwind. There are just too many moving pieces. It's difficult to fix my attention long enough on any one issue, to properly think it through, before several other bombs go off around me. And it's become relentless.

We will soon be at odds with our own countrymen to a degree not seen in 150 years.

As much as I'd like to see that possibility pass like a bad dream, I fear that you're right. The enemies of the republic will not let this rest until there's blood running in the streets. They aim to kill off the real American people and replace us with new citizens of their choosing and persuasion.

I think they're going to find that they've bitten off far more than they can chew. In the end, it is they who will feel the sting of crushing defeat. We The People never wanted this fight, but if they intend to have one, then by God, we're gonna finish it.

164 posted on 06/28/2015 1:15:14 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
We all feel a great reckoning of some kind approaching. The world (and this country) simply cannot continue on its present course. We're about to come completely off the rails of civilization. There are simply too many aspects of the culture that are crumbling, to sustain the 'thin veneer' much longer.

It's even hard to talk about this, as my thoughts run like a whirlwind. There are just too many moving pieces. It's difficult to fix my attention long enough on any one issue, to properly think it through, before several other bombs go off around me. And it's become relentless.


I know, I get scatterbrained myself an there are times I find it hard to sleep. I feel something is or will be going down, like you do. It is like feeling electricity in the air plus adding in the feeling of a sour stomach. It's sort of like if I hold my arm near the cathode ray tube of my TV (I still use the same TV today as we did when we bought it new in 1983) and my arm hairs stand on end. I remember Art Bell called it "The Quickening" as far back a the 1990's. I've been feeling it since then but stronger now. My father has been feeling it since the early 1970's, if so, he's ahead of his time.

As I type this, I'm listening to a clip of "When I Get to Phoenix" by Glen Campbell from a 1969 episode of his show, "Glen Campbell's Goodtime Hour." I ca't believe we went from a nation from those times to now. All I can say is, "where have you gone, Andy Williams, Glen Campbell or even John Boy Walton."

As much as I'd like to see that possibility pass like a bad dream, I fear that you're right. The enemies of the republic will not let this rest until there's blood running in the streets. They aim to kill off the real American people and replace us with new citizens of their choosing and persuasion.

I think they're going to find that they've bitten off far more than they can chew. In the end, it is they who will feel the sting of crushing defeat. We The People never wanted this fight, but if they intend to have one, then by God, we're gonna finish it.


I know. WE keep making bad laws all the time and the SCOTUS supports it. If I was on the SCOTUS, I would rule Obamacare as unConstitutional and with same sex marriage (I really have nothing against it, I have gay friends myself and I even wish them well when they are able to get married), it should have been kicked back to the States and the people to decide, the Feds should be silent on the issue, in theory the Feds have more important jobs to do. Oh wait, they are not doing those, they are too busy chasing the Confederate Battle Flag around and those that do not agree with the SCOTUS. Even with my libertarian views, I also respect those who disagree with same sex marriage and they should not be forced to go against their beliefs either. I think another reason it should have been kicked back to the States and people, just look at the hornet's nest it stirred up for all here. One side, you have a group of people who feel threatened because they do not want to compromise their beliefs and rightly so. On the other side, you have a group of sore winners who want to rub it in everyone's face. Whatever happened to "live and let live and just move on and live our lives?"

In short, I think we have two basic sides who are diametrically opposed to each other. We cannot really live with each other anymore. I've heard stories of longtime friends breaking up and even families of thy are so opposite in thought. It's just like the Civil War. I'm the one who said we are in an 1859 country in a 1938 world. It hurts me to tears since I have friends on both sides, I have some gay friends who mean a lot to me and I don't want to see them hurt. They want to move on like we all do, most of them want to live out their lives in peace. I have friends as well who are opposite and they also mean a lot to me and they deserve to live and have their wishes respected just as the other side does.

It goes deeper than that, as long as the right of those who oppose same sex marriage are protected, we can survive and go on since it is the law of the land. Most other things many lefties are pushing is the immigration issue, aiding and abetting ISIS it seem to me and just a hatred for those who are religious and/or believe in America as it was. You cannot push people into a corner either, no matter if they are Christian, Gay, Black, White, etc. However, with the in your face things going on, I see one side being cornered right now.

Bad law is killing us. Again the same sex ruling is bad law, then again, I think the 14th Amendment is bad law along with the 15th, 16th and 17th Amendments. SCOTUScare is bad law. That's the tragedy. Let me add, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is really bad law. Barry Goldwater was right to oppose it. I think because of that act, everyone with an ax to grind just has to yell and screech, "it is my civil right" and then everyone has to cave.

I think we might hit the nail on the head here, the left is using bad laws to get their way and that is why we are in the trouble we are in.

So now what, the future? Well, there are so much irreconcilable differences where compromise seems impossible. We can peaceably break up and go about our own ways. I think that is the best solution out of a number of poor choices. One side cannot keep badgering the other. However if this does not stop, we may have to fight on our hands.

I hope if and when that day comes, I hope God gives me the strength and wisdom to make good decisions and give me courage. It seem there is no way out of it. We have to get used to the idea where if we fight, we have to win. We need to make them cry "Uncle!" It's as simple as that.
245 posted on 06/29/2015 9:34:15 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("I wish we were back in the world of Andy Williams." - My mother, 1938-2013, RIP)
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