Posted on 06/27/2015 10:17:16 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
WINTERSET, Iowa Business mogul and Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump made appearances in Winterset, Iowa Saturday.
http://www.kcci.com/news/trump-on-gop-theyre-losing-all-the-time/33814990
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I see how we disagreed.
“Actually, this is where he was in 2011,”
You were quoting old numbers. He gave more to Republicans. You just counted only up until 2011.
Tricky.
This is tricky, describing exactly what I was posting?
“”Actually, this is where he was in 2011, when he was just starting his con game to run as a GOP candidate.””
You are the one trying to be tricky, you are using all of his little cons.
Since he started preparing for his 2012 campaign, Trump suddenly pumped enough money in to cover his history, and shift the balance.
We learn about the man, looking at the facts of his political life, not his con game, to sell whatever he is presently trying to sell.
I am now pro-life; after years of being pro-choice. (Apr 2011)
No gay marriage; no same-sex partner benefits. (Mar 2011)
0% corporate tax would create millions of jobs. (Dec 2011)
Capital punishment isnt uncivilized; murderers living is. (Jul 2000)
No Cap-and-Tax: oil is this country's lifeblood. (Dec 2011)
China is our enemy; they're bilking us for billions. (Dec 2011)
When you love America, you protect it with no apologies. (Dec 2011)
20% tax on all imported goods. (Dec 2011)
I am against gun control. (Feb 2011)
American interests come first; no apologies. (Dec 2011)
Citizenship for illegal immigrants is a GOP suicide mission. (Mar 2013)
351,000 illegal aliens are in our prisons; costing $1.1B. (Dec 2011)
Anchor babies were NEVER the intent of the 14th Amendment. (Dec 2011)
Invite foreigners graduating from college to stay in US. (Dec 2011)
Triple-layered fence & Predator drones on Mexican border. (Dec 2011)
Control borders; even legal immigration should be difficult. (Jul 2000)
One hour to produce my birth certificate; Obama should too. (Feb 2011)
Cannot change Medicare or Soc.Sec. and still win elections. (Mar 2013)
4 brackets; 1-5-10-15%; kill death tax & corporate tax. (Dec 2011)
China threatens US with cyber warfare & industrial espionage. (Dec 2011)
His positions have changed over the year but perhaps he truly saw the light.
Recently says he was “evolving” on gay marriage I think
besides, I don’t care enough to keep commenting on Trump threads
I am unaware of any conservative who has given 6-digit figures to the Clinton Foundation. Trump has.
I am unaware of any conservative who wants to ban "assault weapons". There is no such thing you know. "Assault weapon" is a term created by anti-gun liberals so they could ban guns based on cosmetic appearances...and Trump, being the liberal that he is, fell for it.
I am unaware of any conservative who has said they want to extend the waiting periods to purchase a gun. Trump has.
I am unaware of any conservative who has praised as "Brilliant" gun-grabbing leftist Michael Bloomberg for "Putting His Money Where His Mouth Is" on guns. Trump did just that.
I am unaware of any conservative saying they "identify more as Democrat". Trump has.
I am unaware of any conservative saying "the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans". Trump said just that.
I am unaware of any conservative saying Bush was probably the worst president in the history of the United States. Trump said just that.
I am unaware of any conservative saying Im very liberal when it comes to health care. I believe in universal health care. Trump said just that.
Conservatives Rehnquist, Scalia and Thomas ruled against the Kelo Decision, which was the taking of a private individual's property, not for "public use" as is normally the case with eminent domain, but to give it to private industry as was done with Kelo (it was taken and given to Pfizer). Being the crony capitalist he is, Trump said he was "100% for it".
All of the gun control concerns you mention are from 15 years ago.
Trump appears to be much more supportive of gun rights now. He was for controls on assault weapons, and a longer waiting period.
Those however are from 15 years ago. Trump has changed since then. I don’t know if he has reversed those opinions, but he doesn’t seem to have repeated them in 15 years. If you have more recent examples, please present them.
Thank you.
That's right. There are unlimited ways to convince them what's best for our interests. I'm sure they'd quickly realize American interests also matter. Persuasive negotiators should be quick and quite effective.
Actually, I think Trump joined the Reform Party. At least for a while.
I doubt that down deep he is no more liberal than Bush 41.
Reagan spent years giving conservative speaches and served two terms as Republican governor before being elected president unlike Trump who has supposedly found his true conservative self just in time to run for president. But you know all that.
You don’t see it because you haven’t looked.
That or you don’t want to see it, which is to my mind the more likely of the two.
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Trump seems to support the right to keep and bear arms.
Solidly.
15 years ago, he made some significant errors in my mind, advocating for an assault weapons ban, and longer waiting period. They were in his book. Again that was 15 years ago, everyone has changed a bit since then.
He is not involved in gun control efforts at the moment, nor has he said another word about assault weapons in the following 15 years.
Trump (as most people have) has modified his views on some things.
You and I appear to have different views of where he stands on this important issue at the moment.
You believe he still wants to be for gun control. I cannot argue with that thought, because frankly Trump has not rescinded it. But he is not either saying a single word about it, over an entire 15 years.
I believe he has evolved on this issue.
You do not.
We disagree. I will however say, I will be very carefully listening to what Donald has to say on this issue.
If he is in favor of gun control, I am against Trump.
100%.
We just appear to have different opinions of what he believes at present.
Let’s watch him on this issue, carefully.
I ,truly, hope you have someone around you when Trump announces he is withdrawing from the race because he wants to spend more time with his money or some other weak excuse, to prevent you from harming yourself.
Right, the pro-abortion liberal was Independent from 1999 to 2001, it was 2001 when he became a democrat. Trump was democrat from 2001 to 2009.
Here he is in 1999.
“TRUMP PUMPED TO HIT STUMP WANTS TO RUN WITH OPRAH ON HIS TICKET
By Deborah OrinOctober 8, 1999 | 4:00am
The Donald and The Body met in Manhattan last night to discuss The Presidency, which Trump wants to seek with Oprah Winfrey as his running mate.
Trump and Minnesota Gov. Jesse The Body Ventura talked politics over dinner hours after Trump announced hes starting an exploratory committee to study a White House run.
Asked by The Post afterward if hes running for president, Trump said: Yeah, I am.
Trump said earlier that he needs an exploratory committee because so many people have put so much pressure on me to run. I would not be running if I thought I couldnt get the nomination and win.
Trump says he wants Oprah as veep because shes great, and if she joins him in the race, well win.
But a spokeswoman for TVs daytime diva said, Oprah is not running although she didnt totally slam the door, saying thats Oprahs position at this point in time.
Trump and Ventura didnt disclose specifics, but they had plenty to discuss over their meal at the Trump International Hotel.
Ventura leads the ruling faction of Ross Perots Reform Party which, though tangled in nasty internal warfare, has $12.5 million in taxpayer money for its 2000 nominee.
I think hes a great guy, Trump said of Ventura.
They were joined by actor Woody Harrelson and Trumps model gal pal, Melania Knauss.”
You are wrong again. Your liberal hero was praising Michael Bloomberg's misguided gun-grabbing campaign as recently as 2013.
Donald Trump Praises Brilliant Mayor Bloomberg For Putting His Money Where His Mouth Is On Guns
“I believe he has evolved on this issue.”
Yet you have no evidence he’s done so. None. You just “believe”.
That’s foolish.
Very, very foolish.
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Post #97 in this thread proves he has not.
Your an idiot.
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