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To: Sherman Logan

That is just homicides. I said black violence. Annual violence:

MURDER
White:4,382 = 1.77 per 100k.
Black:4,498 = 11.83 per 100k.

RAPE
White:10,990 = 4.45 per 100k.
Black:5,428 = 1,428 per 100k.

ROBBERY
White:41,962 = 17 per 100k.
Black:56,948 = 150 per 100k.

AGG. ASSUALT
White:208,081 = 84 per 100k.
Black:112,325 = 295 per 100k.

OVERALL VIOLENT CRIME
White:265,754 = 107 per 100k.
Black:179,636 =473 per 100k.


20 posted on 06/21/2015 5:55:04 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Yes, those are high rates. But your claim was not that they were high, but that they are the highest in the world.

Which means you need to provide evidence of violent crime rates from other countries.

The problem with doing so being that rape, assault, etc. are defined and compiled differently in different countries. Rape, in particular, varies wildly in definition. In some countries, women who report being raped are shunned or even imprisoned or executed. In these countries, one would expect a low number of reported rapes. :)

OTOH, homicide has a reasonably consistent definition. There’s a body or there isn’t.

My analysis proceeded on the not illogical assumption that countries with high murder rates also probably have high rates of rape, assault and robbery.

But if you can find consistent statistics that support your position, I’d like to see them.

Keep in mind that I was responding to your claim that X is a fact. It is therefore your responsibility, when questioned, to provide evidence that X is a fact.


21 posted on 06/21/2015 6:05:48 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Your murder rate numbers here are obviously low, since the source lists 4,000 some as unknown, the race of the perp not being reported, presumably because there were no witnesses to the killing. Or no witnesses willing to talk.

In my analysis, I made the reasonable assumption that the race of “unknown” perps was roughly proportionate to the race breakdown of known perps. So I rounded the black murder total to 7,000, which gave the 19/100k I referenced.

Given the Stop Snitching campaign in black communities, I think it’s reasonable to assume that there are more black killers in the “unknown” category than white killers. But of course without statistics there is no way to quantify this.

So I assume that actual black murder rate is higher, to some unknown degree, than 19/100k.


25 posted on 06/21/2015 6:34:12 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Those stats remind me of tv coverage of a protest following the infamous pool party in McKinney,TX. There was a black man with a sign that said ‘Black skin does not equal danger’. I think he may have perception of fear correct, but his reality wrong.


28 posted on 06/21/2015 6:39:59 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Yes Ma'am, I said I'd like three sides of bacon with my eggs. and bacon.)
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