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To: ak267
Where to start...where to start...

(1) low gravity

Film slowed down (but not enough, jumps don't correlate with how high they'd go if they were in true 1/6 gravity)

(2) lunar dust displays

Large low-pressure room, film slowed down, also dust didn't go high enough to properly represent 1/6 gravity)

(3) Apollo 15 “hammer vs feather” display

Large low-pressure room, for the feather as close to vacuum as possible.

(4) zero atmosphere

Pump it out. Probably can't get to zero, but who knows? What if it's done in a converted subterranean military chamber - blast doors on either side could bear something very close to actual vacuum.

(5) photographs (shadow angles, pictures in shadow, no stars, etc.,)

LOL, that's on my side - many, many problems with those things discussed everywhere.

(6) floating in zero G.

Low Earth orbit with blacked-out windows -as far as perhaps they actually went before splashing back down a week later. Slip-ups on the bright Earth outside a window when they were supposedly halfway to the moon have already been found.

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I admit being shocked and pissed when I finally decided I no longer believed the standard story. But unlike most tinfoil wearers, I don't have a "thing" about it. What I think is that the whole push for the moon was for certain political purposes. And so, being political, when the technology didn't prove up to snuff, they just lied about it. I don't see this as unusual or rare. A bummer, yes, but hardly incomprehensible. The government has nothing but contempt for the People, it lies to them as a matter of course.

And more lies are always necessary continue to support the original lie. For example, there's a long scene in the movie Apollo 13 where they've turned off the power and it's freezing cold - when the truth is that they'd be roasting in a tin can. That's WHY the fuel had to be mixed in the first place, and the spacecraft rotated, because otherwise one side would heat up. What they needed was A/C units to cool them off through radiator panels. So why lie about this fundamental issue in the movie? I mean, it's huge.

Well, how about the same problem on the moon? How did those guys stay cool? Their backpacks had to provide power and A/C, but then where did all the heat go? Supposedly it would blow out as steam, but then you have to carry around water as well, and they had no umbilicals. And they certainly didn't have giant radiator panels sticking out from them. Nor do any photos show the backpacks releasing steam - as they did in training videos.

People don't realize how much heat is a problem in space. The International Space Station has all sorts of panels sticking out that everyone thinks are solar panels. Wrong. A huge number of them radiate heat away from the station, to keep the crew from being cooked. In fact, heat control is a huge part of what they do each day, making sure the panels are angled appropriately. But no one talks about this.

I'm not saying they don't have recirculating A/C units - now. But they go on space walks and then when there's a problem they almost drown, because of the water they take with them to cool off. And they recharge those units in the station. But on the moon, fifty years ago, sitting in a capsule the size of a closet? How did they cool off with no water? Or recharge their units with what power?

Nah. Too many problems with the story. It's always something crucial that NASA treats trivially or never mentions, over and over again, thing after thing. It's like watching a Clinton lie unravel layer after layer after layer without end, but everyone just shrugs.

Whatever. It's not like it matters at this point. Maybe the Muslims that now represent NASA's mission will find a way there - and then start throwing rocks down on us.

76 posted on 06/17/2015 8:18:51 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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(1) Film slowed down (but not enough, jumps don’t correlate with how high they’d go if they were in true 1/6 gravity)

How much was it slowed down and under what method? Did they over-crank or high speed? How much film was produced for 50+ hours of coverage (plus personal film shots)?

How were they able to connect the films, convert the format for TV, keep the rolls without noticeable splices, scratches or dust?

How high can an astronaut jump, with full gear, with little or no knee bending, on the Earth and the moon?


(2) lunar dust displays

Large low-pressure room, film slowed down, also dust didn’t go high enough to properly represent 1/6 gravity).

3) Apollo 15 “hammer vs feather” display

Large low-pressure room, for the feather as close to vacuum as possible

Can you provide some more technical details (1969 technology) about this large low pressure room (dimensions, lighting, etc.,) capable of holding the lander, and accommodating a lunar rover going about. The largest vacuum chamber in the world belongs to NASA (100’ wide by 155’ tall and is cylindrical). It’s used to pressure-test rocket stages.

Also, can you express in a mathematical equation the proper height and shape the lunar dust should had been (same goes for the objects thrown by the astronauts). You can also explain the proper shape and height had it been on Earth (you know, your secret, underground, Art Bell approved, large vacuum chamber)?

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_1855.html

Can you explain to me what is wrong with with following segment, in mathematical terms, when the following astronaut throws a plastic bag. How far, high, and time must it had taken?

1:25 mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxZMjpMhwNE


(4) zero atmosphere

Pump it out. Probably can’t get to zero, but who knows? What if it’s done in a converted subterranean military chamber - blast doors on either side could bear something very close to actual vacuum.

You kind of lost me there. “What if it’s done in a subterranean military chamber” doesn’t sound like an answer but more like speculation (which is not an answer). Can you give me 1969 (heck, I’d take a 2015 answer) explanation on building such a HUGE vacuum chamber when the biggest one to date is only a 100’ by 155’ cylinder.


(5) photographs (shadow angles, pictures in shadow, no stars, etc.,)

LOL, that’s on my side - many, many problems with those things discussed everywhere.

You mean this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnrPaz3xFIg&index=14&list=PLwhjFBLTueU8QbATZ5X_Kstma8zHtY48O

Or this iconic photo?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KRohmGzN6A&index=12&list=PLwhjFBLTueU8QbATZ5X_Kstma8zHtY48O


(6) floating in zero G.

Low Earth orbit with blacked-out windows -as far as perhaps they actually went before splashing back down a week later. Slip-ups on the bright Earth outside a window when they were supposedly halfway to the moon have already been found.

Okay, so what you’re saying is that didn’t go to the moon but just floated around in orbit for a week? And nobody noticed...not even the Russians.

“Hey Ivan, look at this...NASA says they’re on to the moon but the command module/lunar lander just keeps circling the Earth. Hmmmmm, better keep quite about this and not tell our superiors. If we did, the Illuminati will be very mad at us.”

Look, you started off on cameras, then it went to no humans made it to the moon, now it’s a secret military underground vacuum chamber (something that’s never been done on that scale especially with 1969 tech). The speaker on the youtube file Moon Landings Faked? Filmmaker Says Not! said it best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_loUDS4c3Cs

11:43 mark

“Once you’re forced to hypothesize whole new technologies to keep your conspiracy possible, you’ve stepped over into the realm of magic. It demands a deep and abiding faith in things you can never know.”


83 posted on 06/17/2015 11:18:16 PM PDT by ak267
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