Posted on 06/17/2015 2:27:35 PM PDT by Marcus
Edited on 06/17/2015 11:33:18 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Updated: Added unedited and actual excerpt of the Examiner article.
According to a Tuesday article in the Moscow Times, a spokesman for Russia’s Investigative Committee named Vladimir Markin suggested that an international investigation be mounted into some of the “various murky details surrounding the U.S. moon landings between 1969 and 1972.”
Markin would particularly like to know some of the missing moon rocks went to and why the original footage of the Apollo 11 moon landing was erased.
Markin hastened to add that he is, of course, not suggesting that NASA faked the moon landings and just filmed the events in a studio...
Article continues here: http://www.examiner.com/article/russian-official-calls-for-international-investigation-of-the-apollo-program
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A spokesman for Russia’s Investigative Committee named Vladimir Markin suggested that an international investigation be mounted into some of the “various murky details surrounding the U.S. moon landings between 1969 and 1972.” Markin would particularly like to know some of the missing moon rocks went to and why the original footage of the Apollo 11 moon landing was erased. Markin hastened to add that he is, of course, not suggesting that NASA faked the moon landings and just filmed the events in a studio
wow back when the moons atmosphere was a lot more dense//
(1) Film slowed down (but not enough, jumps don’t correlate with how high they’d go if they were in true 1/6 gravity)
How much was it slowed down and under what method? Did they over-crank or high speed? How much film was produced for 50+ hours of coverage (plus personal film shots)?
How were they able to connect the films, convert the format for TV, keep the rolls without noticeable splices, scratches or dust?
How high can an astronaut jump, with full gear, with little or no knee bending, on the Earth and the moon?
(2) lunar dust displays
Large low-pressure room, film slowed down, also dust didn’t go high enough to properly represent 1/6 gravity).
3) Apollo 15 “hammer vs feather” display
Large low-pressure room, for the feather as close to vacuum as possible
Can you provide some more technical details (1969 technology) about this large low pressure room (dimensions, lighting, etc.,) capable of holding the lander, and accommodating a lunar rover going about. The largest vacuum chamber in the world belongs to NASA (100’ wide by 155’ tall and is cylindrical). It’s used to pressure-test rocket stages.
Also, can you express in a mathematical equation the proper height and shape the lunar dust should had been (same goes for the objects thrown by the astronauts). You can also explain the proper shape and height had it been on Earth (you know, your secret, underground, Art Bell approved, large vacuum chamber)?
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_1855.html
Can you explain to me what is wrong with with following segment, in mathematical terms, when the following astronaut throws a plastic bag. How far, high, and time must it had taken?
1:25 mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxZMjpMhwNE
(4) zero atmosphere
Pump it out. Probably can’t get to zero, but who knows? What if it’s done in a converted subterranean military chamber - blast doors on either side could bear something very close to actual vacuum.
You kind of lost me there. “What if it’s done in a subterranean military chamber” doesn’t sound like an answer but more like speculation (which is not an answer). Can you give me 1969 (heck, I’d take a 2015 answer) explanation on building such a HUGE vacuum chamber when the biggest one to date is only a 100’ by 155’ cylinder.
(5) photographs (shadow angles, pictures in shadow, no stars, etc.,)
LOL, that’s on my side - many, many problems with those things discussed everywhere.
You mean this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnrPaz3xFIg&index=14&list=PLwhjFBLTueU8QbATZ5X_Kstma8zHtY48O
Or this iconic photo?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KRohmGzN6A&index=12&list=PLwhjFBLTueU8QbATZ5X_Kstma8zHtY48O
(6) floating in zero G.
Low Earth orbit with blacked-out windows -as far as perhaps they actually went before splashing back down a week later. Slip-ups on the bright Earth outside a window when they were supposedly halfway to the moon have already been found.
Okay, so what you’re saying is that didn’t go to the moon but just floated around in orbit for a week? And nobody noticed...not even the Russians.
“Hey Ivan, look at this...NASA says they’re on to the moon but the command module/lunar lander just keeps circling the Earth. Hmmmmm, better keep quite about this and not tell our superiors. If we did, the Illuminati will be very mad at us.”
Look, you started off on cameras, then it went to no humans made it to the moon, now it’s a secret military underground vacuum chamber (something that’s never been done on that scale especially with 1969 tech). The speaker on the youtube file Moon Landings Faked? Filmmaker Says Not! said it best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_loUDS4c3Cs
11:43 mark
“Once you’re forced to hypothesize whole new technologies to keep your conspiracy possible, you’ve stepped over into the realm of magic. It demands a deep and abiding faith in things you can never know.”
1960’s largest vacuum chamber was...
Chamber A is now the largest high-vacuum, cryogenic-optical test chamber in the world, and made famous for testing the space capsules for NASA’s Apollo mission, with and without the mission crew. It is 55 feet (16.8 meters) in diameter by 90 feet (27.4 meters) tall. The door weighs 40 tons and is opened and closed hydraulically.
Oh wait, wasn’t it your supposed secret military underground complex....ahhhhh...riiiiiiight.
Paging Art Bell
Whatever. I’m not here to convince you. Your casual use of derogatory comments and generalized pseudo-scientific arguments marks you as a waste-shill looking to pick everything apart and dodge the things you can’t. There’s plenty of discussion of this issue on the Net, anyone who wants can look as deeply as they want.
Bye.
Actually, the space suits did use water evaporation from the backpack to cool the astronaut. The heat was transferred to the water, which in turn was allowed to evaporate into space.
“Cameras with internal insulation”? Vacuum IS insulation - physical connection of “insulation” would just increase the conduction of heat.
I see you did not study physics. Sunlight impinging on the camera bodies would transfer heat to the surface of the camera body. This was alleviated some by reflective coatings on the cameras. Insulation in the camera prevents the heat generated at the surface of the camera from penetrating into the camera too quickly.
“Iron foundry”? 230 degrees is plenty hot for plastic film thanks.
We have pictures of iron foundries, which are hotter than the surface of the moon. If we can do that with ordinary cameras, then it is not such a stretch to use a camera on the moon. The idea of the insulation in the camera and its magazine, plus the use of a film safe in the LEM was to avoid undue temperature rise in the film. It turns out that more pictures were spoiled by static electricity discharge within the cameras.
“Hardened” cameras? Why “hard”?
Had you ever done any reading of aerospace/NASA documentation, you would know that this is a term for making devices withstand its environment. This includes heat, vibration, or radiation.
You just make things up. Go away.
No, I actually experienced some of it first hand. I also read lots of documentation that was written during the development stages as well as during and after the conduct of those space missions. You are the among those who just make stuff up. Identify what you think I made up, and we can discuss it at some depth.
I know already that you are not a reader, have difficulty grasping technical subjects, and have already made up your mind. Should you decide to educate yourself, go purchase the four DVD documentation package regarding Apollo from http://www.TheHistoricalArchive.com. Those are full of PDF documents that cover the entire project in extreme detail.
You do know that driving the rover was practiced on the earth long before it went to the moon, don't you?
Do you know that there were machines that performed the lunar decent LONG before they landed on the moon, don't you? This HAD to be perfected before going to the moon.
You are insane.
ahahahaha THANKS!
Just in case you were up to a little light reading:
Yep, more pre-mission training. They did an awful lot of that. They also flew LEM trainers to practice landing.
GingisK: I know already that you are not a reader, have difficulty grasping technical subjects...
Like I said, goodbye, shills. This subject is already outed on the Net, anyone who follows it up doesn't need my opinions on the matter.
But for anyone reading of these issues here for the first time, I draw attention to the extremity of these personal insults. What you are seeing is the stink of desperation. Think about what that means.
And also think about this (click the quote for the link):
LOL, I guess I'm as "insane" as the NASA Orion engineers! Maybe one of you shill hacks can go straighten them out!
Bwahahahaha!
I was there maybe 20 years ago with my wife and daughters when they were teens. Wish I had hours, but we were there just for a day.
Seeing all the rockets reminded me of when I was a kid, the principal ushered a select few including me into a room to watch live broadcasts on B&W TV of our astronauts blasting off into space. We were a can-do nation back then. I still own a couple slide rules I had in the old days, and like you am amazed at what got designed and built with them. Kids nowadays have it easy with computers and have it bad with slacker "role models" and "leaders".
Yes, by people who don't have the qualifications to draw their conclusions.
The Internet is NOT an exhaustive source of information.
I feel sorry for you. You are unable to celebrate some wonderful things.
You are insane
No need. The Apollo 11, 14, and 15 missions placed Laser Ranging equipment there and are used today by astronomers to bounce signals of off.
How do the Russians suppose those got there?
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