Posted on 06/14/2015 8:00:04 AM PDT by don-o
Four weeks after the deadly Twin Peaks shooting melee that left nine bikers dead, 177 others in jail with million-dollar bonds and way more questions than answers about biker subculture, due process in Waco and conflicting crime narratives, the two sides in all this are only hardening in their positions. In short, a microcosm of the American way.
Some vigorously support local law enforcement. They say the facts that bikers came to Waco’s Twin Peaks restaurant well-armed and that search warrants reveal many wore colors of motorcycle gangs associated by the FBI and Texas Department of Public Safety with criminal activity, organized and otherwise, justifies the bikers’ incarceration and high bonds.
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The Trib may well have to revise its own estimation that the Twin Peaks dustup won’t leave a stigma attached to Waco such as that spawned by the 51-day Branch Davidian siege of 1993, which sparked wild conspiracy theories while leaving Waco with a black eye that had only recently begun to disappear. With legal questions revolving around interpretations of the First, Second, Fourth, Fifth and Eighth amendments — including the right to wear motorcycle gang colors if you so choose — there’s enough constitutional grist in this complicated saga to keep state and federal courts busy for years. And that’s allowing also for a conspiracy theory or two. It’s the American way.
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Well CNN also call them Brave and Courageous?
Who cares if they wear their “colors”? It is nice when the bad guys are clearly labeled. I think law enforcement should be allowed to profile and businesses should be able to refuse service or sales to guys wearing “colors.” The only problem with that is the real biker guys are bad guys and want to mess up someone wearing colors in their area regardless of who may be around just like these moronic Mexican gangs. The wanna bes who dress like motorcycle gang members are a taco short of a platter too.
Them? I think you may be referring to Crazy Man in Dallas. Aren’t you?
The cops were only doing their job. Of course nobody is all bad, even Barrack Obama isn’t all bad but that’s the nature of evil.
If firing 14 rounds into a fighting mob is “doing their job” well, All righty then. Let’s hear what the R of E was going in.
One thing that I caught from the Friday presser what that the Chief denied that any snipers were included in the LE deployment.
Wonder why not.
Did you just assume / make up that fact.
I rely on memory. Will try to find a quote.
And I resent being called a liar. I have been here a while. You are the very first person who has ever accused me of making up facts.
That the cops indiscriminately fired into a crowd? Offended?
You again wrongly try to interpret this newspaper report and its conclusion as some defense of bike gangs. It was not re-enforcing your failing contention that Bandidos, Cossack, etc. bike gangs were just misunderstood law abiding citizens and were at Twin Peaks, armed to the teeth, to discuss MOTORCYCLE SAFETY only to be ambushed by a horde of bloodthirsty cops just waiting for any excuse.
Finding significant parts of Obama that are not bad is a challenging task that I have not yet accomplished. I see that he is a much better golfer than I am, apparently an adequate father, and completely loyal to his hidden faith. Otherwise, he is so close to all bad that I have not found even one area where he is good.
The fatherhood part is about all he’s got going on the good side. Time will tell on that.
Poster ignored.
If these ~200 Evil Doers were so well known to LE, why weren’t they in the hoosegow before this event?
Police are trained to shoot to kill, not to ‘wound’. The object of firing a weapon is to terminate a threat as quickly and efficiently as possible. For an individual officer with a handgun, that means firing hollow-point bullets (banned by the Geneva Conventions) into the center of mass (chest) as many times as required until the threat is ended.
Police armed with scoped, silenced, M-16 and/or M-4 rifles are required to do the same thing: shoot to kill, not wound.
The police fired 12 rifle rounds intending to kill as many as 12 individuals in the center of the melee. Are we to assume the police are incompetent at hitting man-sized targets at less than 50 yards with a scoped rifle?
So why do the press and police continue to imply that although the police intended to kill 12 people, the only deaths and injuries resulted from the ‘gang members’?
This story still stinks without even considering the constitutional issue of arresting people based on their choice of clothing.
We are being spun and misled at every opportunity by law enforcement.
I know it doesn't work with your narrative that now the police are stating that only three police fired, and those three fired a total of 12 rounds. So what will your response be when the autopsies the come back?
I do not have a narrative.
If you will read my posting, you will see that my main interest is in the Constitutional issues that the incident raises.
I think it was yesterday that I raised the question of whether the law under which they were arrested and placed under $1,000,000 bonds will hold up. Saying that how a person is dressed gives probable cause to arrest seems to fly in the face of the First Amendment.
I wonder if it has ever been done before.
I guess that would depend on what is (or is not) in them.
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