Posted on 06/06/2015 11:48:59 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie
this forum is becoming a mouthpiece for cruz.
Then you are a poor judge, and maybe disingenuous.
Cruz is the best conservative of the bunch. Who are you trying to promote?
You need to wrap yourself around the fact that Cruz said Obama can’t be trusted and is destroying America.
Then he voted to:
1. Give Obama special powers to negotiate in secret after Obama unconstitutionally threatened to only allow a few Senators to see the TPP as it stands now.
2. Make the Senate give up its right for a 60-vote cloture in deferment to Obama. The TPA that Cruz voted for creates a new law that will force the TPP upon the American people with only 50 or 51 votes.
3. Re-write the law so that no Senator or member of the House can offer any amendments to the TPP that Obama negotiates.
That is what Cruz voted for. You cannot take away from that. Those items are FACT.
You can play little word games and talk in circles all you want. Those facts are EXACTLY what Cruz voted for after telling us over and over again that Obama could not be trusted.
I care how he votes and don’t trust anything that he says.
Read my other posts for folks I am interested in. We have all gone in circles about why he can’t be trusted.
He sounds great and then does the opposite. I am done settling for “the best of the bunch” aka McCain, Romney, ...
We need real leaders and not people that endlessly posture.
Like I said, I have repeated myself several times and this has been a good discussion. Read my other posts. I think we need and deserve better.
However, I don't go bad mouthing him in every thread. He is one of us. You on the other hand, visit Cruz threads regularly to talk down one of the best conservatives we have. Sorry, he did not meet your perfection standards, but he is one of the best conservatives.
You do come off as a troll, visiting every thread in this manner to smear a great conservative.
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One can hope!
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Mod out of hand?
Copyright violations are serious.
The Walker dupes are out of hand.
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There might be a fraud here somewhere...
So you disagree with me? That makes me a fraud? I guess you are the only arbiter of genuineness.
Cruz voted for the TPA just like McCain.
I am a bad judge? So in your mind giving Obama special powers and the Senate giving up its Constitutional right to a 60-vote cloture is good? Voting to change the law so that no member of Congress can modify the TPP after Obama negotiates it in secret is good?
You and I just have a different perspective of what is good.
You are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine. But at least I am decent enough of a person to not question your integrity because I disagree with you.
The only truly known parent would be the mother and the US Citizen mother conveys NBC to her child born. The long precedent, before the Constitution in British Common Law the mother did not have be in her country of citizenship when the birth took place to give her child Natural Born Citizenship.
Whether you or I can understand or agree with that is irrelevant.
Until someone “with standing” brings NBC before the Court, the only way any further clarification will occur will be through Congress. Doubtful Congress or SCOTUS will touch it, so we seem to be stuck without anything more than we now have.
In the Founders defense, they being honorable patriotic gentlemen assumed all who would run for and be elected President would also be equally honorable and patriotic.
Another ambiguity that R2 will need to make clear.
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CC obviously stands for “Chamber of Commerce.”
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Go ahead, keep lumping Cruz with McCain and Romney, two of the most liberal republicans that we have. These two who have a liberal record so long that it is hard to list them all. That is quite decent of you.
You, sir, are the one playing word games.
I have walked your original words back to what you now say, which shows you really didn’t understand squat about the TPA and the TPP.
Have a good evening, knowing you were wrong.
When the clear facts are against you just smear and insult.
Neither of you has addressed any of the facts whatsoever because they destroy your arguments.
Editor-Surveyor,
All I have done is make the facts of this issue clear. The reality that you cannot overcome those FACTS makes you resort to name calling because you have nothing else. So sad and childish.
And if you had any comprehension of military service you would understand that CC is a designation assigned to military members that were in Command positions at the end of their careers. CCGuy was a joke when I was still in and has a story behind it with my friends.
I started my time in the Air Force as an E-1 Airman Basic and retired a Colonel 24 years later.
Are you feeling even a little more ignorant now?
It is one thing to critique him on something. But the effort is to smear and completely make him look like something he is not.
It frequently gets so over the top, that you have to question the motives of some of these posters.
My list stands and I have explained it well.
TPA that Cruz voted for gives Obama everything he asked for.
If you chose to be ignorant of obvious facts I cannot help you anymore.
I guess the Cruz campaign staffers are giving up even trying to argue the facts because they have realize they have no logical way to explain what Cruz did to us.
Of Course. Question the motives and don’t address the facts.
Because the facts destroy any argument you have.
Until I read and understand the legislation and hear his explanation for myself I don't know how I would have voted. I won't drop Cruz in favor of another candidate solely because you and others might disagree with him.
That's why we have so many low-information voters that follow a party line and support people like Obama or Romney for that matter. It's easier to believe what someone tells them than to look at both sides and decide for themselves who best represents their interests.
Before I liked Cruz, I liked Walker. Before I liked Walker, I liked Palin. And I may decide to change my choice again if I find someone who better represents my values and viewpoints in the coming days. Whoever I support, I can't blame anybody but myself.
You painted Cruz with the same brush as McCain and Romney. There is no need to address anything with you. You have destroyed your own argument.
Replying again with no facts and circular rants is sad. Enjoy being on the side of the guy that votes with McCain.
You sadly keep up the smearing. I will side with Cruz.
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