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Texas Rising

Posted on 05/26/2015 8:00:06 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans

Anyone watching the miniseries on History Channel? I missed part 1. Watching second. Not that great but I haven't changed the channel yet.


TOPICS: History; Miscellaneous; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: texas; tv
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To: tumblindice

This page of a book that I have, mentions the meals of Comanche flesh.

https://books.google.com/books?id=JIijydq9GngC&printsec=frontcover&dq=history+of+texas+rangers&hl=en&sa=X&ei=C0VlVeXxO4qMNviLgIgJ&ved=0CEkQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Tonkawa%20&f=false


21 posted on 05/26/2015 9:17:33 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

From grade 2-5, Wilshire elementary, San Antonio, TX, we were taught that the only survivors of the Alamo were women and children.
Santa Anna ordered ‘no quarter’ after Travis refused his offer of surrender. This must be Hollywood artistic license. American moviemakers/TV series producers have never let the truth stand in the way of a good story.


22 posted on 05/26/2015 9:18:22 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: tumblindice

Karankawas, I have heard, were indeed man eaters. They’d tie people to stakes and dance around ‘em, cutting bits of their flesh off and eating the chunks while the victim is watching and still alive.


23 posted on 05/26/2015 9:19:26 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: tumblindice

Actually I wrote “last survivor” by accident. I meant last male-survivor, as the women were allowed to leave. All the rest of the male defenders, as you said, were executed in the show, and also in history. So Ray Liotta surviving and becoming an avenger is definitely Hollywood license.


24 posted on 05/26/2015 9:22:01 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
I understand the liberty's they are taking, but showing Goliad with mountains around it takes the cake, along with Nagadoches in mountains as well, is really stretching it!
25 posted on 05/26/2015 9:23:03 PM PDT by Bibman ("We are the dead" Winston Smith 1984)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

The better half just now says she saw Ray—who she likes very much—on a talk show and was disappointed to see that he had become a big boy since his days as Henry Hill, good fella.
Yeah, I’m 225. So he must be a hugh manatee.


26 posted on 05/26/2015 9:24:47 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: yetidog

I personally prefer “Lone Star Nation” by H.W. Brands. He is a professor at Texas A&M yet they didn’t back the book very strongly. He documents his research thoroughly (Almost 40 pages of notes and sources) - but he lets the facts play out as they are. Unfortunately it seems the current thinking is that ALL history books must somehow reflect current political correctness, even if it takes outright lying.


27 posted on 05/26/2015 9:25:17 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: ansel12
This might explain why the Comanche were so much trouble themselves. Fear and loathing of the Tonkawa? 😬 Early Texans felt the same way about the "Comanch".
28 posted on 05/26/2015 9:29:45 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: tumblindice

29 posted on 05/26/2015 9:31:28 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I should point out as well that I recall hearing, either in class or the playground, that the subsequent war of northern aggression was fought to an inconclusive draw. Heh


30 posted on 05/26/2015 9:34:30 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I just showed that picture to her. She says he looks “wildly handsome” and not at all fat.


31 posted on 05/26/2015 9:36:20 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: tumblindice
I should point out as well that I recall hearing, either in class or the playground, that the subsequent war of northern aggression was fought to an inconclusive draw. Heh

That's correct. In fact, we're still under a shaky truce with the North to this day!

32 posted on 05/26/2015 9:39:32 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: tumblindice
I just showed that picture to her. She says he looks “wildly handsome” and not at all fat.

He definitely lost a lot of weight for the show. He looks just fine! Can't comment on the wildly handsome part LOL.

33 posted on 05/26/2015 9:41:23 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Bibman

Repeat to yourself, “It’s just a show I should really just relax”!


34 posted on 05/26/2015 9:46:51 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: tumblindice

Santa Anna used the red No Quarter flag three times: Alamo, Goliad, and San Jacinto.

The book Lone Star Rising is at Sams Club and very well researched.


35 posted on 05/26/2015 9:46:52 PM PDT by LoneStar42
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To: Squawk 8888

Just keep in mind that that part of Texas on which the events took place is a coastal plane. San Jacinto is near Houston which is less than a hundred feet above sea level. That’s why so much f it is underwater because of the rain today.


36 posted on 05/26/2015 10:12:10 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: Bibman

Most people have no idea of what Texas is like. “Lonesome Dove” was generally faithful to the actual geography. But I still laugh when I recall a movie with Lawrence Harvey called “Walk on the Wild Side” that depicts him getting off a truck on which he had hitched a ride right by a sign that says ”Beaumont, Texas.”and he is right in the middle of a desert!


37 posted on 05/26/2015 10:19:21 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Tonights episode was about the build-up to the battle at Goliad.

Todays Goliad is a small town, dominated by the town square housing town offices and court house, including the “Old Hanging Tree” right outside the courthouse side door.

f only we could provide justice in today's world.

March the Boston Bomber out the side door and deal with the scumbag without ever spending dime one on his meals!

38 posted on 05/26/2015 11:22:36 PM PDT by Noob1999
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To: gaijin

LOL Im of the same opinion


39 posted on 05/27/2015 12:39:46 AM PDT by expatguy (Donate to "An American Expat in SE Asia")
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To: Red Badger

Another hit piece of, “anyone from the South are a bunch of yahoos” production! Killing the ‘Native Americans’ while spitting chaw show!
‘Nuff said?


40 posted on 05/27/2015 2:25:47 AM PDT by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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