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To: fireman15; Star Traveler; dayglored; Loud Mime; itsahoot; amigatec; PA Engineer; House Atreides; ...
Yes I am familiar with that way of getting electronic devices that have not been released yet.. You send a large money order to someone who claims they will send you the device. The only down side is that usually they don't send you the yet to be released device at all or not until after it is released.

As usual, you make a huge assumption that is totally false. The proper way is to have someone who is a family member who then worked at Apple. . . such as a nephew. . . and knew the inside track.

You claim that your device was better then the iPhone when all the reviews claim it was NOT. Your anecdotal claims just do not match the claims of history. Your claims of the iPhone getting a connection of less than a 56K connection in your area fall into that category. I travelled across the country using one and lost signal for only a total of three hours. . . and the data speed was quite good. I am technically skilled, not a fireman, and know far better than do you what I am talking about.

And yes the PPC-6700 could be used with its internal GPS for navigation, and yes it has a sensor so you could use it as a "spirit level" if you wanted. You have got it backwards... the iPhone was the "toy" and the PPC was a serious communications tool.

You seem to pull "data" out of your rear end . . .

If there was a GPS in your PPC-6700 why do NONE of the reviews or any of the technical reviews say NOT ONE THING about it. . . and in fact, claim that the mapping functions work only with a connection to an external Bluetooth GPS device. You make absolutely NO sense. Not a single of them mention that it had anything like motion sensors installed in it, and you would think that it would mention such an innovation.

YOU are desperately making stuff up to suit your argument. If I am wrong, provide a link proving that your toy has X,Y,Z directional motion sensors built into it. Put up or shut up, Fireman15.

In fact, in relation to your claimed GPS, a Google search for PPC-6700 GPS just turned this up:

"Once and for all, the (PPC-)6700 has E911 GPS only, it cannot be used wtih turn by turn gps applications. If you really want/need some form of inaccurate navigation and don't want to buy a bluetooth gps unit, your options are Microsoft Live Search, Google Maps, or Navizon." — Source XDA Developers forum on XV6700, PPC-6700 ROM development

A search for the E911 GPS finds that E911 GPS reveals that it is a WIFI empowered GPS system that works by triangulating specialized VERIZON ONLY WIFI hotspots and cell towers, and then trying to calculate over the internet where the handset is located. It is NOT a Geopositioning Satellite System, it's a cheap Kludge to avoid having to pay for onboard GPS hardware and licensing. It's accuracy is approximately +/-350 feet. What a joke. E911 is intended only for general area location for emergency 911 calls, not for accuracy for GPS directional use or driving or location use. You are grasping at straws.

A Google search for PPC-6700 and motion sensors returns ZIP.

46 posted on 05/20/2015 11:01:50 AM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker

You have the patience of a saint as you deal with that (and others also) low-information troll.


47 posted on 05/20/2015 11:12:17 AM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: Swordmaker
You are quite good at casting nonsensical dispersions that sound convincing, but anyone who does a search with the terms PPC-6700 and G-Sensor will come back with thousands of results mentioning the sensor that you claim it doesn't have.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-touch-pro/83147-g-sensor-will-not-calibrate-says-complete-then-bubbles-jump-back.html

As far as the GPS... you must not be looking very hard. It was an advertised feature... I even included a link to a PDF file of an ad from the time period in one of my posts. I used the Sprint navigation GPS app that came installed and it worked well, but it was a feature that they charged for and was never cracked by the modding community. It used the GPS system and not triangulation using cell towers. Please take the time to read the following flyer in PDF format:

http://www.sprint.com/dealerrewards/PPC6700SP_flier.pdf

Well I am glad that you have a “nephew” who was on the “inside track” at Apple and you didn't send your hard earned money off to a scammer.

And regardless of your claim that you got data speed that was “quite good” we actually tested it and it was quite bad in our area... typically less than a 56k modem, while the PPC-6700 in the same locations could peak out at up to around 2Mbps but more typically did around 600Kbps to 1.2Mbps. There simply was no comparison. I am sure that there are plenty of people here who have some recollection of the 2G iPhone's pathetic internet speeds. Why do you suppose they upgraded it to 3G? Gee I don't know.

Well congratulations for being “technically skilled, not a fireman, and know far better than do you what I am talking about.” I was actually a leader of the hazmat team and am fairly technically proficient myself, having worked in the computer lab in College and sometimes filling in for professors when they weren't able to make it to a class. When any of the Chiefs or my co-workers needed assistance with a non-network related computer question they often called me instead of someone in the IT department. I was often tasked with projects that generally would not fit with my normal job description.

Despite ample demonstrations of your ignorance in this thread I have never questioned your knowledge of Apple products. You just don't know much of anything about non-Apple products... and you fill in the blanks with your imagination. It feels more than a little pathetic and may make it seem to others that you are more of a poser than an expert.

48 posted on 05/20/2015 11:53:14 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Swordmaker

Here is a link to the “Phone Scoop” webpage that lists the specs of hundreds if not thousands of cell phones. Since you do not seem very good at checking out links I provide, I have also cut and pasted the relevant section on the GPS:
“GPS / Location Yes”

http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=808

Also the Mobile GMaps for Pocket PC App claims that the ppc-6700 is supported. I never tried this app, but I do know that a GPS chip is included in the device. It was a frequent topic of discussions all of those years ago. As I said previously, I did not know that developers had figured how to make use of it other than using the paid Sprint GPS App which worked well. Quotes like the one you found from one poster on the XDA Forums claiming the device had no GPS were disproven. Not that it made any real difference to me at the time; the work-around for me was buying an inexpensive Holux Bluetooth GPS for $40 on eBay. After that I didn’t pay much attention. I hadn’t thought about it much until you started arguing with me here as if it were something meaningful to debate.


50 posted on 05/20/2015 12:55:56 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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