Posted on 05/07/2015 4:52:56 PM PDT by Kartographer
Ben, I’m doing this article for you as I promised, and I hope it will help you (and others) to make those decisions in the critical moments and days following an EMP (Electromagnetic Pulse) event. Although I had plenty of science courses in college, I am not a scientist. Certainly someone with a scientific background will comment on this article. Let me state this: Scientists, I welcome all comments, positive or negative, but please make them proactive. These articles are forums where the writers are “emcees” that introduce topics for discussion and present some salient points. You guys and gals are the ones who pick up the topics and run the football in for the TD.
We need to be “SME’s” as we called them in the Army: Subject Matter Experts. One of my personal goals for SHTF is not just to draw a large readership base; it is to help readers develop themselves and also develop one another. Let the site become an ORP (objective rally point) where everyone can plan, exchange ideas, and attain better levels of awareness and preparation for the times to come. In this light, there is a lot of knowledge out there awaiting use. Take the knowledge you amass, step up to the plate, and take the swing: do the best you can with what you have. And if it isn’t perfect, so what? You give it your best shot and then adjust fire from there.
(Excerpt) Read more at shtfplan.com ...
“Correct link: http://www.futurescience.com/emp.html";
No, it is not the link you posted above - that is the entire paper; the link I posted was the one the other Freeper posted which is the page on MYTHS; - this is the correct link for the discussion of MYTHS ABOUT EMPS, HEMPS.
http://www.futurescience.com/emp/EMP-myths.html
FWIW, anything below the water line is EMP safe.
That’s amazing confirmation. Survival mom knows what she was talking about.
How do you think to feed this thing in case of apocalypse? Or just to hit a crowded road at least. American prepping is quite a naive and romantic thing:)
The link you posted is a dead end now.
I don’t know if you have 4-wheel drive on your Russian oxcarts but, no, over here we don’t have to stay on the roads.
Actually I have good ol fashion books with a lot of that type info.
LOL. I know everything about 4-wheel drive, 6 and 8-wheel drive, low ground pressure off-roaders, amphibians and I’m licensed to operate and have access to tracked all-terrain vehicles too.
I owned 4-wheel drives since my second car (or third counting my father’s hand down) in late teens.
I also traveled to places with a humanitarian crisis going on with collapse of infrastructure and civic order so I am somehow qualified to share first hand experience.
I assure you that unless you are living deep in the rural area, your big @$$ vehicle would be the first thing you wouldn’t be able to use in case of any major crisis.
The roads would be packed and jammed and what kind of off-road terrain you are planning to traverse in urban or suburban environment? There are indeed either road or structures and you ‘ll need no less than medium tank to go through the latter.
Another question is where do you want to travel off-road since every place of human interest is actually interconnected with one another with roads anyway.
Even if there is such a place what would be your gas mileage off road? Would it be sufficient to reach anywhere?
And you won’t be able to use it in rural area as well, the moment you ‘ll need to refuel but there won’t be gas on your nearest station.
I am here not talking against big trucks which are valuable things for many situations.
I am actually questioning unrealistic prepping strategies build around vehicles like that.
I actually believe you better look at scooters as you doomsday vehicle of choice no matter how unorthodox and silly it sounds at first glance.
It is quite a long to explain but I can try if you are really interested.
The reason the animals around Chernobyl do not die of cancerous tumors is that their lifecycle is not long enough for them to develop them, supposedly.
Too late for me.
Actually the opposite is true.
Susceptibility to radiation induced cancer is directly correlated to the rate at which the cells divide.
This is why children are more sensitive to radiation; their cells divide more frequently.
Thus animals with shorter lifespans having a more rapid metabolism and more rapid cell division are more susceptible to radiation induced cancer.
Thus the NRC strictly forbids any radiation workers under the age of 18 and strictly restricts the amount of radiation a pregnant woman may receive.
In my opinion that documentary pretty much blows the dominant theory of the dangers of nuclear power plants out of the water. Wild life is thriving amidst and around the worst nuclear disaster of the Twentieth Century.
No need, thanks. Just as I wouldn't ask someone who was a committed communist three weeks ago to explain free market economics to me (you'd be surprised at the number newly minted experts we've seen here on FR who are itching to teach Americans everything they've learned about the subject since Ronald Reagan single-handedly brought their beloved Mother Russia to its knees, by applying economic principles every American has known since childhood), I wouldn't ask some poor guy who proudly announces he's owned two Ladas since leaving his father's potato farm, where he maintained his dad's fleet of oxcarts, to explain what he knows about real cars and trucks.
The average American has probably owned dozens of cars and trucks, not just two Ladas. What you've learned about real cars and trucks by working on and driving Ladas is analogous to what you've learned about real markets and economics while regurgitating lines from Das Kapital for your schoolmasters the first 20 years of your life. But thanks for the offer. Very kind of you.
A++++ !
‘No need, thanks.’
I have expected an overblown rant like this, that’s why asked in order not to waste efforts in the first place.
As a side note it is nice to see a person who were through every possible situation and knows everything better!
Have a nice day, LH!
Bad English, but I understand. It's probably not necessary for me to point out that you're the guy who blurts out BS such as, "I know everything about 4-wheel drive, 6 and 8-wheel drive, low ground pressure off-roaders, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, everything about everything, really," not me. That's the kind of thing certified know-it-alls say. I'm sure you're a really big fish in your small pond. But I never speak like that... Adios.
Sorry but microwaves do not make good Faraday cages. Yes they will shield the device but they are heavy, small capacity, lots of wasted space and fairly heavy.
All you need is a metal box with the inside covered by a basic insulator. A metal garbage can with cardboard is sufficient as long as the lid fits tight.
The trouble with those is not that emp will kill them. It’s that everything else breaks.
Ok, ok... You are cavil at words and I probably lost temper at your initial oxacart response. I surrender, you win!:)
Yes, a metallic screening is very effective against it but the problem electronics is still need cables to work and you can’t fully protect it for that reason. Spark gaps and things like that are of some use at that point and optic cables are somehow immune to magnetic pulse as well.
Interesting comments at the end of that article, with at least one person saying EMP isn't the big bugaboo everyone says it is, and that lots of newer vehicles would survive it.
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