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To: Swordmaker
Wow. Transparent screens. Like Indium hadn't been discovered or something.

Perhaps you are right. Perhaps I should have been in the Ipad inventing business back in the 1980s. Transparent touch screens strikes me as a freakin obvious idea. As a matter of fact, I seem to recall several variations of the idea of a touch screen from the 1980s and 1990s. There were Membranes, there were LED/Photodiode grids, Light Pens of course, and there were capacitive touch screens back then. The Membranes and the capacitive touch screens were certainly using Indium Tin Oxide to produce transparent conductors, that much I distinctly remember.

That Apple wins court cases is not very persuasive. My observations lately are that the modern Judiciary is about some of the dumbest/ignorant people in positions of power that we have ever seen. As a matter of fact, I am becoming persuaded that the courts are starting to serve very well the function of a negative barometer. If they are in favor of it, it's probably objectively wrong. Examples are too numerous to mention.

I wonder if Apple would have won had an engineer familiar with the industry been the judge instead of some Juris Doctorate that has no actual useful knowledge?

Apple probably developed the best algorithms for interfacing with LCD touchscreens, but once again, I think you are probably giving them far more credit than they actually deserve. As near as I can tell, they just added a third button to a mouse, and pronounced it a magnificent accomplishment.

Maybe I just need to look more into what it is they did, because so far, i'm just not suitably impressed.

124 posted on 05/09/2015 5:38:10 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp; Star Traveler; dayglored; Loud Mime; itsahoot; amigatec; PA Engineer; ...
capacitive touch screens back then.

Actually there were not capacitive touch screens back then. . . The first capacitive screen on a phone, which was a single touch device, was the LG-KE850 also known as the Prada, which was claimed to have been out before the iPhone. The other screens before that one, were all resistance touch. These are again FACTS, and you can do all the dancing about membranes, LED/photodiode grids and light pens, and Indium Tin oxide crap you want, none of them worked as a transparent multi-touch screen until Apple's engineers cracked the secret of how to do it and showed the world how and were awarded the patent on how. THEY get the royalties from everyone that makes multitouch screens for all kinds of devices.

Apple probably developed the best algorithms for interfacing with LCD touchscreens, but once again, I think you are probably giving them far more credit than they actually deserve. As near as I can tell, they just added a third button to a mouse, and pronounced it a magnificent accomplishment.

Apple probably developed the best algorithms for interfacing with LCD touchscreens, but once again, I think you are probably giving them far more credit than they actually deserve. As near as I can tell, they just added a third button to a mouse, and pronounced it a magnificent accomplishment.

You know Diogenes, it is absolutely astounding to me how people like you who are so abysmally ignorant about Apple products, technology, and history think they can come on these threads and tell an Apple user, and someone like me, who is intimately familiar and in fact an expert on Apple products, having owned a cross platform consulting business for over 35 years, something you just don't know anything at all about!

Apple Macs have been capable of handling double, triple, wheel, trackball mouses, and more for at least 25 years. . . and they will automatically recognize whatever inout device you plug into them, without installing drivers. The Mac has shipped with a five button mouse with a 360º scroll ball since 2005, and for the last six years, Apple's mouses are both double button but multi-touch sensitive trackpad top wireless mouses. Again, SHEESH!

125 posted on 05/09/2015 6:52:40 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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