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The fighters who've lost to Floyd Mayweather explain why he's so impossible to beat
Business Insider ^ | 04/30/2015 | Tony Manfred

Posted on 04/30/2015 11:10:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Floyd Mayweather Jr. is widely regarded as the best fighter of his generation and one of the best defensive fighters of all time.

He enters his May 2 fight with Manny Pacquiao with an undefeated record of 48-0. There's a case to be made that Pacquiao, who has knocked out more opponents, can pull an upset, but most expect Floyd to win this fight the same way he has won fights for years — making his opponent miss early, timing his counters to perfection, and eventually winning on points.

There's a radical juxtaposition between Mayweather's persona out of the ring (obnoxious, offensive, appalling) and his style within it (calm, intelligent, pragmatic). Over the years the fighters who've lost to Mayweather have spoken about his boxing brilliance in glowing terms, and explained what makes him so hard to beat.

Ricky Hatton (lost by knockout, December 8, 2007):

"I was fighting a genius, a boxing artist. I was getting more and more frustrated. Lose your cool against Floyd Mayweather and what you do is you get knocked out." — to Showtime

Oscar De La Hoya (lost by split decision, May 5, 2007):

"Now we have to give credit to Mayweather because what Mayweather can do is what Mayweather Sr. calls 'walking your opponent down.' So what he does is he gets in the pocket and covers himself and he'll walk you down. And he'll let you throw punches and Pacquiao is probably going to keep throwing punches in bunches and he might tire himself out while Mayweather is just blocking everything. And then Mayweather can just come, throw his combinations of two or three punches, win the round, put the rounds in the bag, and win the fight." — to HBO

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KEYWORDS: boxing; floydmayweather; mannypacquiao
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To: skeeter

wow what a punch!!! is that the same guy who ended up going to jail for eight sex hostages?


41 posted on 04/30/2015 12:07:03 PM PDT by dp0622 (Franky Five Angels: "Look, let's get 'em all -- let's get 'em all now, while we got the muscle.")
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To: dp0622
Yep. One entertaining guy.

Maybe too focused on entertaining, as it turned out.

42 posted on 04/30/2015 12:09:15 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Theoria

Floyd had a problem with Maidana who was aggressive, an unconventional thrower of punches, and could take a punch. You need someone who can put constant pressure on Floyd without exposing themselves to counter punches.


43 posted on 04/30/2015 12:17:11 PM PDT by kabar
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To: dp0622

Cromwell Center. I think I played basketball there as a kid. Don’t remember much about it except they had some fine ball players.


44 posted on 04/30/2015 12:20:19 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (two if by van, one if by broom)
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To: notdownwidems
thanks for giving me 11 rounds to watch later. I was a heavyweight who should have lost 20 pounds and been light heavyweight.
There was a middleweight guy there who used to toy with me during sparring. He could have killed me if he wanted to. And the weasel trainer used to waive people to bring it on behind the inferior fighter's back!!!! SOB lol.
Puerto rican fighter. Class act.
I used to do six sets of one hundred push ups and sit ups.
Now i can barely sit up without effort or push myself off the couch lol. My aunt says to put a picture of me back then on the Wall to motivate me. I put it up but it's blocked by Twinkies :).
45 posted on 04/30/2015 12:25:45 PM PDT by dp0622 (Franky Five Angels: "Look, let's get 'em all -- let's get 'em all now, while we got the muscle.")
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Boxing is a joke, these “boxers” wouldn’t last a minute against an MMA fighter.

So what, neither would a basketball player. They are two separate sports, with different rules so you train and use your body an use weight in much different ways. The best athletes go where the money is so why would an excellent boxer take the time to learn MMA?

If you are trying to make the point that MMA fighters are better overall fighters, like in a street fight, I would dispute that always being the case. In a fight with no rules someone willing to bite and gouge could overcome much of the wrestling or Judo based aspects of MMA and the winners on the average would be the better striker. This is especially true if there are multiple attackers.

46 posted on 04/30/2015 12:28:46 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: SeekAndFind

OK, I’m a girly girl, but I never understood boxing, it is so bestial to slug it out and cause harm to another in the name of entertainment.


47 posted on 04/30/2015 12:34:20 PM PDT by kiltie65
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To: SeekAndFind

Jose Aldo would destroy him.


48 posted on 04/30/2015 12:40:09 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (We need a conservative electable candidate in 2016)
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To: dp0622

“Then my plan was to see my mother again one last time.”

LOL. Nice turn of phrase.


49 posted on 04/30/2015 12:40:21 PM PDT by ModelBreaker (')
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To: kiltie65

“OK, I’m a girly girl, but I never understood boxing, it is so bestial to slug it out and cause harm to another in the name of entertainment.”

Have you ever been to one live? Get up front tickets. I know girly girls who have changed their minds completely after seeing a boxing match up close.


50 posted on 04/30/2015 12:44:38 PM PDT by ModelBreaker (')
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To: SeekAndFind

Floyd is just an incredible dooosh bag. That’s the only way to describe him. Unfortunately, guys like that make good fighters. His domestic abuse record is appalling and his spending habits shallow and insane. So easy to root against. If Pacman knocks him out ( unlikely), that will be the only satisfying conclusion. No way Pacman gets a decision. If it goes the distance, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a draw. That way they can fight again and double their money. It’s all about the dollars. Always.


51 posted on 04/30/2015 12:45:22 PM PDT by strider44
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To: kiltie65
OK, I’m a girly girl, but I never understood boxing, it is so bestial to slug it out and cause harm to another in the name of entertainment.

you're not supposed to get it, you're a girl

52 posted on 04/30/2015 12:46:27 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

GREAT basketball players. Place was packed. I was like one of three white guys out of hundreds lol.
never had a problem. Everybody just wanted to play ball or get beat up in the ring :)


53 posted on 04/30/2015 12:49:01 PM PDT by dp0622 (Franky Five Angels: "Look, let's get 'em all -- let's get 'em all now, while we got the muscle.")
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To: gr8eman
Of course not. If you take away the majority of the MMA fighter's tools how can anyone expect it to be competitive?

Conversely, if the boxer has to defend takedowns, submission attempts and head/body/leg kicks, he'd get destroyed.

54 posted on 04/30/2015 12:49:25 PM PDT by Squeako (If you ask yourself, "How did this happen?", the answer is likely "decades of communist activity".)
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To: Darren McCarty

Yeah, a couple of hard kicks to the lead leg and Mayweather would be limping and done.


55 posted on 04/30/2015 12:51:38 PM PDT by Squeako (If you ask yourself, "How did this happen?", the answer is likely "decades of communist activity".)
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To: SeekAndFind
Those guys aren't as fast as Pacman is.

Pac is going to use his hand and foot speed to win rounds.

56 posted on 04/30/2015 1:01:04 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

An ex-con once told me the difference in a street fight and it wasn’t the particular skills of the combatants. He said the meanest person wins.


57 posted on 04/30/2015 1:04:28 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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To: gr8eman
Randy Cotoure vs. James Toney (who was actually holding a HW boxing title at the time)

The fight went to the ground quickly and Couture completely dominated Toney.

In a pure boxing match (no grappling, submissions, etc.), of course the boxer has the advantage. Take the fight to the ground and out of the boxer's comfort zone, the more well-rounded fighter will defeat the fighter who is skilled in a single discipline that requires both fighters to be standing in order to be effective.

The boxer must land a first or 2nd punch KO in order to have the advantage vs. a skilled MMA fighter.

58 posted on 04/30/2015 1:10:30 PM PDT by American Infidel (Instead of vilifying success, try to emulate it)
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To: SeekAndFind
Not much of a fight fan myself (I prefer that good ol' pre-Internet kayfabe rasslin'!), but second only to baseball, boxing probably has the longest and most quasi-mythological history and lore.

About the time I was born boxing was an absolute craze in the United States. I have read that boxing saturated television much as football does today and that every fighter of ever weight class had dedicated fans who couldn't wait to watch them on "Friday Night Fights."

The sport is very brutal and I'm not even sure it should be legal (but I'm not "raising awareness" or anything, boxing fans, so don't get mad!). But when you consider names like John L. Sullivan, Jack "Nonpareil" Dempsey, Mysterious Billy Smith, Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, and the TV stars of the 50s (Marciano, Robinson, etc.), you have to give the fight game its props.

59 posted on 04/30/2015 1:33:22 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The PacMan epitomizes the boxing warrior and he reminds me of the former greats such as Ismael Laguna and Roberto Duran who grew up in their respective third world dirt floored villages in Panama.

Manny is a hero in his country who has been plagued by tax problems but after all is said and done, what he had done for his country, he has attained saint hood as far as I'm concerned.

Mayweather is nothing but a bling adorned thug with a criminal record........

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60 posted on 04/30/2015 1:49:38 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (November 2016 shall be set aside as rodent removal month.)
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