Posted on 04/25/2015 11:50:43 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom
[...] Tom House, a former journeyman major league pitcher who has turned into the country's leading sports biomechanics guru, had been working with Tebow for months. Every day for hours. This was after Tebow had been released by the Patriots two years ago and Tom Brady, who has become a protege of House's, recommended the former Broncos QB see House at USC, where he has an office above the third base line.
[...] He was Nolan Ryan's coach, and Randy Johnson’s, and then he started working with Drew Brees at the beginning of his NFL career. Brees swears by him. Said House changed his life. Brady has been a believer for a few years now. So have about a dozen other NFL QBs who make a pilgrimage in the offseason to see him.
[...] "What you need to do is identify the critical variables. And do you have a fix for the variables that aren't efficient? Then, if they're efficient and effective and they're repeatable, they play. And we do as well with quarterbacks who are just trying to get better to go to college as we do with Drew Brees and Tom Brady, who just want to get 1 or 2 percent better."
Tebow needed a lot more than 1 or 2 percent improvement, though.
"Everybody's afraid of Tim," House told me back then. "There's too much stuff that comes with Tim. When he showed up here, he was 10,000 reps behind any other NFL quarterback. He'd never been given a tool kit on how to fix [his mechanics]. With good intentions, he wasn't getting any help. Everybody pulls for him, but good intentions with bad information is just as bad as no information at all." [...]
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“I still remember the loud boos at the Stadium when the Colts chose Manning over Ryan Leaf.”
I remember Polian saying that they interviewed both Leaf and Manning prior to the draft.
They asked Leaf what he would do if Indianapolis chose him as their number one pick. He said that he would throw a party and invite all of his friends.
They asked Manning the same thing. Manning replied, “I would ask for a playbook and start studying it”. Manning also told Polian that if Polian did not draft him that he would beat him for the next 15 years! Those two comments did it! ;-)
Good grief. He’s not unpopular. Most commentators i’ve seen (including the liberal ones on “Pardon the Interruption”) are rooting for him. Some of the ardent lefties hate him, but they hate everyone.
Tim Tebow is not persecuted. He’s just not that good. Hope he got better; I’m rooting for him too.
Ditto times 4.
If true, that is pretty much a killer. Joe Montana was the best in the game due to his ability to see the field and make quick (and correct) decisions. Vince Young had great talent, but if his primary reason wasn't open - forget it. And there are variations between the scales. Tebow doesn't have to be at the Joe Montana level -- but if he is close to the Vince Young spectrum of seeing the field and processing the information quickly, it really doesn't matter about the rest of his physical talent (and great attitude).
I hope the 'not wired to process the information' comment is an exaggeration
Most people probably dont care much about Tebow either way. He is yesterday’s news until he does something liike win a spot on someone’s roster.
I’m no Iggles or Floriduh fan, but I would like for a physically & mentally improved Tebow to make the team, step in as the starting QB at some point during the season, take them to the SB, and shut up for good the Christian-despising, leftist media @-holes and Gator-hater fans.
Got your work cut out for you on that one.
Agree. I’m a Navy & Auburn fan; Gators are the enemy :) I think there are a lot of people who don’t like Tebow *because* he was Florida’s QB.
Tebow took a 1 and 4 team to the second round of the play offs. I can show you a dozen quarterbacks in the NFL that have NOT come anywhere near that record.
Also, Manning lost in the second round of the playoffs his first year with Denver. You could say he got as far as Tebow.
Sports radio guy in Philly described Tebow’s throwing motion as “He throws like a small child trying to hurl a can of paint.”
He had the help of a 1000+ yard RB (and 3 OT wins on Matt Prater's leg) - and lost 4 of his last 5 starts once opposing Ds figured out how to play him. What he did that year was an accomplishment - but it's far from proving that anything but his own limitations has held him back since then.
Manning lost in the 3rd round. Manning lead Bronco’s didn’t have to play in the 1st round so his 1-1 was 2nd and 3rd round not 1st and 2nd. So no, he got further.
A continuation of my last post.
Most people who spout stuff about Tebow’s ‘throwing skills’, but don’t really understand, and who just have parroted what other talking heads have said, which has made me question them.
I’m going to explain it here for people who have been confused by the minor criticism parroted. Tebow’s past mechanics are not all bad but for a circular delivery although still fairly quick.
The conventional thinking is the quicker a QB gets the ball off in a pass the better. QB passing mechanics: for short and intermediate passes(like 20 to 30 yards), the benchmark for QBs to quickly get the ball off is to bring the ball under the ear over the chest with arm cocked then following through with the throwing motion passing the ball.
However, for long passes for 50 yards or more, it’s OK to load up with long wind ups to get more power into the pass as we see at the 1:40 mark in the video below where Tebow throws to D. Thomas for 51 yds against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
You can compare and contrast Tebow vs. Steeler’s QB Ben Roethlisberger who has the a little quicker passing delivery vs. Tim Tebow’s more circular and cocking/holding the ball farther behind his head.
5 minute highlights for the NFL playoff game
- Broncos 29 Steelers 23 OT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idx5wsH6Fys
As a note. Former quarter back Randall Cunningham of the Philadelphia Eagles and Minnesota Vikings had a very long wind up, but I don’t recall hearing any complaints about his passing mechanics.
It’s that he’s not wired to process what he’s seeing once the ball is snapped, and if you don’t have that, you simply can’t be a quarterback in this league.”
That’s polite speak for he’s so “heavenly minded that he’s no Earthly good”. He’s a committed Christian and even the nicest “nonChristians” think that the children of light have the intelligence of a nice soft teddy bear with no inherent aggressiveness to play with “the mean guys”! You don’t win Heisman trophies by having nothing in your brain to process play action info!
You don’t win Heisman trophies
in this league, that is, the NFL.
The criticism of Tebow’s throwing skill has little to do with his speed and a lot to do with him throwing wobbly ducks that miss his receivers by yards, He has no consistency in his throws, sometimes they’re beautiful, sometimes they look like they were thrown by an epileptic child. Which means he’s inaccurate because it doesn’t look like even he knows what he’s going to throw next.
Highlight reels don’t tend to show incompletions, because they tend not to be highlights. So over half of Tim’s passes don’t land on reels.
No duhhhhhhh! A quarterback no matter how good he is needs the rest of his team to win(and the rest of the team needs to be good as well). That was Teebow’s real issue...he thought he had to do everything himself and it can put folks off. I hope he’s grown up and humbled a little bit. He’s a Christian but I think a bit of youthful pride made him feel as though he had to be a one man show! I think we will see something different...more solid playing with an improvement in using his assets... that is, the rest of his team!
Yeah you do. College athletics is almost always about athletic ability, not brain processing. The majority of Heisman winners are NFL busts. They are quite simply two completely different sports with vastly different needs from the players.
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