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I thought these ideas are fascinating and worth considering. I have been working on my own education ideas and I may post those tomorrow. It would be great to have a mini-series of educational ideas. After all, education has been in the hands of the Democratic unions for decades. With a Republican in the White House, we could cause a cosmic change in education. I think the more brainstorming we could do, the better.
1 posted on 04/25/2015 6:27:38 AM PDT by Republicanprofessor
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I wonder if they measured the average IQ of Finnish children as compared other countries...


2 posted on 04/25/2015 6:30:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Organizational theory says that large organizations can only do one task well. When they become too diversified with too may agendas they fail. The American education system is now a way of socializing (as in creating socialists) children and acclimatizing them to the new godless and non-moral society. It is also a means of financing useless eaters and giving jobs and retirement benefits to people who have paid their Democratic party dues. Nowhere on the list is educating in reading, writing and arithmetic. Those have become the cover story.


3 posted on 04/25/2015 6:32:56 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Republicanprofessor
"This phenomena..."

"This phenomenon"
- or -
"These phenomena"

please, teacher.

5 posted on 04/25/2015 6:39:40 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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Finland has a population of about 5 1/2 million people.


8 posted on 04/25/2015 6:50:32 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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[...educational ideas. After all, education has been in the hands of the Democratic unions for decades.]

Worthless democrat unions who only indoctrinate mush minded children into the new slavery coming for sure.


9 posted on 04/25/2015 6:52:40 AM PDT by kindred (The time of America may be short, but Israel will come to fruition under God's Son.)
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We want astounding new discoveries from people forced into an education system that is focused on the lowest common denominator.

Our nation still hasn’t figured out the difference between education and training. It hasn’t figured out the difference between knowledge and wisdom.

The Finns are producing people who are good at school. OK. So show me the difference between that from say locking their kids up in prison until they are 18.


10 posted on 04/25/2015 7:03:15 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Make sure your name is on the paper, and put it in the basket when you are Finnish.


11 posted on 04/25/2015 7:07:14 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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Finland is white so IQs and culture play in the performance of students and teachers.

The US would never be permitted to pick people as teachers based upon real skills and abilities rather than race quotas and rage.


14 posted on 04/25/2015 7:13:24 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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I don’t think the Fins are importing third world non Finnish faking illiterate third worlders and forcing Finnish children to dumb down to their level.


15 posted on 04/25/2015 7:25:34 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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With the entrenched bureaucracy and the teachers unions I wonder how much can really be changed.


17 posted on 04/25/2015 7:34:03 AM PDT by Calpublican (No Comprendo)
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We can’t even stick to ONE philosophy of education long enough to see if it actually works. We are constantly trying new methods, ideas and initiatives. We keep adding more and more to our plates without removing any of the past ideas.

This constant change in educational goals/methods/nomenclature is what soured my wife on her teaching career. Every few years, some aspiring PhD candidate would enter the administration with a whole new set of guidelines, goals and methods that were applied to everything from auto mechanics to English lit. And this was at the college level. Her teacher friends in grade school had it even worse, having to submit lesson plans that accounted for every 6 minutes of classroom time. Just insane.

I note that the Finnish method in fairly close to what I experienced in school 60 years ago in the US--the major exception being one teacher for the first 6 years. However, I am aware that this did occur in some one room schools in remote areas.

When I look back on my elementary education, I realize what a genius our principal was. Not only did he hire dedicated teachers, he exposed us to culture and business outside the classroom. By 6th grade we could balance a checkbook, discuss art and classical music and had a working knowledge of world geography and governments. We had not started algebra or foreign language but what we had covered, we knew.

18 posted on 04/25/2015 7:38:57 AM PDT by DeFault User
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America is modeling it’s education system after China’s. Mindless personality-destroying rote learning, where there is only one correct answer to every test question, including questions like “what did you do on the weekend?” and “what is your favorite color?”


20 posted on 04/25/2015 7:47:09 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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I didn’t see any mention of a teacher union in Finland or how long it takes to fire a bad teacher or of racial quotas.

Finland is a small and and very homogeneous country with common shared values. That is the foundation of the trust that he mentions at the end and that he claims to be the basis of its success.


21 posted on 04/25/2015 7:49:08 AM PDT by aquila48
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The only thing that will save US education is to get government out of it at all levels, but that will not happen. People love their subsidized daycare.


26 posted on 04/25/2015 9:37:14 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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