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To: fatnotlazy
It works the other way too. I’m female and didn’t marry because most of the guys I met were irresponsible losers. It takes two people to make a marriage work and most of the guys I knew wanted the woman to do all the work. I suppose they thought women’s lib meant they didn’t have to do anything anymore. Wrong.

I also found this. Men today are liberal by day (as in, they expect the wife to go out and earn her fair share of the money) but turn traditional at night when it's time to clean house. I finally cleaned house by abandoning men entirely. I've been celibate for 11 years now and the drop in stress is amazing. I don't intend to try it again. Most of my female friends who are married spend half their time commenting on how much work it is.

59 posted on 04/20/2015 6:08:33 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady

I suppose part of my problem is that I was looking for a man just like my Dad. My Dad was responsible, hard working, loved his family and for a little guy, tough and strong when necessary. I don’t know whether men in my generation were emasculated by feminism or, thanks to feminism, they figured they didn’t even have to try anymore.

The feminist movement did propel capable women into professions they could not even consider generations ago. But the movement had its downside in creating generations of men and women who could not have or sustain healthy relationships. It also has a lot to do with why children are being brought into single parent environments with no father and a mother who simply doesn’t care. The traditional family as we know it is dying out.


67 posted on 04/20/2015 6:32:36 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: A_perfect_lady
11 years?? Oh just kill me now.

LOL!
118 posted on 04/20/2015 12:29:09 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Never in history has any government ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

A_perfect_lady wrote:
It works the other way too. I’m female and didn’t marry because most of the guys I met were irresponsible losers. It takes two people to make a marriage work and most of the guys I knew wanted the woman to do all the work. I suppose they thought women’s lib meant they didn’t have to do anything anymore. Wrong.
I also found this. Men today are liberal by day (as in, they expect the wife to go out and earn her fair share of the money) but turn traditional at night when it’s time to clean house. I finally cleaned house by abandoning men entirely. I’ve been celibate for 11 years now and the drop in stress is amazing. I don’t intend to try it again. Most of my female friends who are married spend half their time commenting on how much work it is.

Then I’m the exception. I love to cook, and my wife is a good cook — but she’s, well, not a vegetarian but leans that way... meaning 4-6 vegetables, and a small, single main course of some meat. I also have been told I cook wrong (meaning not her way), and too much (I like leftovers, for snacks - for next day lunches, for my dad to eat, since he lives with us).

I used to wash/dry/fold the clothes on the weekends (when she worked during the week, just like I do), but I got yelled at for folding towels incorrectly.

When the kids were smaller, I changed the diapers (she’ll tell you that I did change more than she ever), fed them, etc. I take the three of them anyway - mall, grocery store, friends houses, etc. She can’t take more than one out on her own.

Now, she’s quit her job and I still TRY to help out, but am told I come home and try to “take over”, so I’ve quit. I come home, say hello to the kids, any adults I see (she’s usually on the front porch smoking and playing Bejewled on her phone), change clothes, talk to the kids (if around) about homework, etc. - and sit on the bed watching TV so I don’t get told I’m doing something wrong - or taking over.

We haven’t been intimate (other than a few hugs the other night when our cat died) in almost three years.

I’ve begged her to go to the doctor to get back on Zoloft, to no avail.

I’ve quit fighting - I’m leaving it in God’s hands, because everything I tried hasn’t worked. He’ll either fix me or fit the situation.


128 posted on 04/20/2015 12:48:39 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. ItÂ’s been found hard and not tried')
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