Sick of Chemtrail Haze Over NJ [Vanity]

Vanity | 4/19/2015 | Self

[PieterCasparzen]

I've watched the weather here for 50 years; growing up we did not have haze at 30,000 ft for months on end.

Every day, it's like being in a greehouse, an obvious light filter prevents the full sunlight from reaching the ground.

The past few years they've turned up the haze a lot.

Spring - so far only 2 or 3 days above 70. Summers have been very cool.

Have not had a really clear day in a long time. Decades ago, had really clear days all the time.

What's really annoying is that they think we're so stupid we don't notice, we don't look up... because it's not reported on the six o'clock news - and the fact that what they're spewing up there is probably some kind of nasty stuff.

My guess is that most of the eastern US is in the same boat.

So sick of being lied to by our ruling elite.

[Flick Lives]

Huffing paint cleared my sinuses.

[SamAdams76]

I've lived in the Northeast most of my life and live in Southern CT now - not too far from NJ and NYC.

I still see a lot of crystal clear skies with dark blue. In fact, today is one of them, though we are starting to see some high clouds as result of a storm system approaching for tomorrow.

On a few summer days last year, I sat on my deck and watched thunderheads form. Still a spectacular sight. Though not quite a spectacular as from a Deep South area like Alabama or Texas.

I actually remember more haze in my younger days. Back in the 1970s, air pollution was a much bigger problem, especially in NJ.

[concernedcitizen76]

Chemtrails could never be. How do we know? On 13-March-2015, the U.S. EPA said they’re not aware of any spraying of chemical aerosols into the atmosphere. And we all know our government including the blessed honorable untainted EPA have never ever lie to us.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.2977.IH:

(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as–

(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;

(ii) chemtrails;

(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;

(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;

(v) laser weapons systems;

(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and

(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.

(C) The term `exotic weapons systems’ includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.

[Moonman62]

I can remember back in the 60’s as a child watching thunderheads grow. You could see them from the ground all the way up to the top. Clear as a bell. Can’t now. Way too much haze.

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Most of that haze comes from trees. If anything we have less man-made pollution now.

[mowowie]

There are many out there that claim that it is a chemical called Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO)that is being sprayed.
Often times this “DHMO” can be toxic in large concentrated quantities..

[familyop]

The following supports your comment.

Does the number of sunspots have any effect on the climate here on Earth? SOHO, NASA
Excerpt:

However, there are more important indirect effects: sunspots are associated with what we call "active regions", with large magnetic structured containing very hot material (being held in place by the magnetism). This caused more ultraviolet (or UV) radiation (the rays that give you a suntan or sunburn), and extreme ultraviolet radiation (EUV). These types of radiation have an impact on the chemistry of the upper atmosphere (e.g. producing ozone). Since some of these products act as greenhouse gases, the number of sunpots (through association with active regions) may influence the climate in this way.

But remember that with too many weak field lines over a large area, ozone is depleted instead, and increased outer core and mantle activity precede increased magnetic field movement. Increased methane leakage might result, causing further ozone depletion. Thinner, wider ranging clouds can result from that, too, but they don't produce much precipitation in general. Drought follows in areas under magnetic weak spots.

[Dust in the Wind]

Need rain here; I guess my animal magnetism can't overcome the natural lack in this weak spot.

[PieterCasparzen]

Exactly. some days trails are heavy....

yes. But not every day.

Perhaps I need to go to the extreme of taking pics of the sky every day and putting them on a website.

I’d still have naysayers saying I faked the photos.

I love how I say every day I look up and see high-alt thin cloud cover. Anyone I talk to I can say - hey look up do you the thin cloud cover ? And they say - yes, I see the cloud cover, of course. It’s a little hazy up way up high.

Now, I just have to do this every day. And take videos of the question and the answer.

Maybe after 1,000 or so videos are made, “yeah, there’s high-level thin clouds today.” Just like yesterday ? Duh, yesterday ? Yeah, I ask you yesterday, and 1,000 days before that, every day. Here’s videos of you saying, yes, there’s thin clouds way up.

Oh, did I say that 1,000 times ?

I can’t remember. I have no memory. I only know the weather today. It’s high clouds, thin, way up high.

If I posted 1,000 videos of such conversations, 1 every day, people would say I hired actors, faked the videos.

Here’s the assignment for everyone: make a log, every day write down whether you see high-alt thin clouds. Check in the morning, midday and late afternoon. Do that for 3 years.

Then check your log, and see how many days were there was no thin clouds high alt.

My problem is - if there is a small group of people giving the order to do some crazy scheme they’ve concocted to “control weather”, etc. - and if they’re doing this secretly.

If it’s for the public good, there’s no reason to not make ALL the details of what’s going on PUBLIC.

There’s no valid justification for secrecy when it comes to weather.

Lots of reasons for secrecy though, especially if some diabolical moron leaders are trying to make the glo-bull warming hoax be accepted by “the masses”. Or if they’re trying to do some other idiotic scheme like making droughts in California, etc.

Kind of like piss on the sheeple’s leg and tell them it’s raining.

[Hot Tabasco]

Various governments publicly admit to “cloud seeding”.

Cloud seeding has been going on for decades but with one hitch: It requires "clouds", it doesn't MAKE clouds.......

[Dust in the Wind]

Posts 24 and 86 offer an explanation for more haze now days. I am not saying there is none, I just have a problem digesting a conspiracy. Now about HARP...8)

[TigersEye]

Are you suggesting that there are more airplanes in the air today than there were in the ‘60s or ‘70s?

I’m going to need to see charts, graphs and Congressional testimony to believe that one!

[kanawa]

I have some friends, otherwise normally sane foks, that believe as you.
I avoid discussing it with them for the sake of our friendship.

[Sherman Logan]

Difficult to find numbers, as I probably am not using the right search terms Here’s an interesting chart for passenger kms worldwide.

http://adrianoil.blogspot.com/2014/12/world-wide-flight-traffic-and-global.html

Hard to read for the earlier years, but something like 5B in 1965 and 10B in 1975.

180B+ last year.

So, yeah, I guess that would qualify as “more planes in the air.”

Here’s another graph, I think it’s for US flights only per year. 1965: about 2M. 1975: about 8M. 2008?: 20M.

http://www.airshowfan.com/air-travel-is-ridiculously-safe.html

I think most people forget how unusual air travel was back then. Today it’s utterly routine.

Happy to see other numbers if you have them.

[TigersEye]

I have to apologize to you as I didn’t mean for you to take the question seriously. However, your work does make the point both you and I were trying to make.

Thank you for your efforts.

[dynoman]

I wondered if more air travel puts more exhaust in the upper atmosphere, here’s a trend that says gallons used had actually went down. http://www.transtats.bts.gov/fuel.asp

Air travel miles have went way up though. Tripled between 1960 and 1970, went up five times between 1970 and 2000. They have been basically the same from 2000 -2012. These are domestic flight miles. http://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/publications/national_transportation_statistics/html/table_01_40.html

[dynoman]

That is the exhaust condensing at certain temperatures and not at others. Just like car exhaust.

[2CAVTrooper]

Oh BS! B-17’s, B-24’s, B-29’s, etc all left contrails in WW2.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=b-17+contrails&FORM=HDRSC2

IMO, one would have to be a drooling, mouth breathing, inbred moron (just like jessie ventura) living in their mom’s basement to believe in “chemtrails” or any one of the other conspiracy nutjob stories.

[dynoman]

Ping to post 95! :)

[concernedcitizen76]

Move along. Nothing to see here. Just ordinary contrails from flight paths of commercial jets. The EPA publicly declared so on March 13, 2015. Their word is bond. They never once lied to the American people. Right? http://www.pipr.co.uk/all/chemtrails-how-in-the-world-are-they-spraying/

[IronJack]

I keep telling you ... those were NOT airplanes. They were either super-secret jets being flown by the Third Reich, or they were alien spacecraft cleverly disguised to look like conventional planes, but equipped with an array of futuristic weapons that would make the Starship Enterprise look like a whaling dinghy.