Sick of Chemtrail Haze Over NJ [Vanity]

I've watched the weather here for 50 years; growing up we did not have haze at 30,000 ft for months on end.

Every day, it's like being in a greehouse, an obvious light filter prevents the full sunlight from reaching the ground.

Have not had a really clear day in a long time. Decades ago, had really clear days all the time.

What's really annoying is that they think we're so stupid we don't notice, we don't look up... because it's not reported on the six o'clock news - and the fact that what they're spewing up there is probably some kind of nasty stuff.

Yes, I know that mostly we’re talking about water vapor. Thanks for your post, it prompted me to read up, we’re talking even more water vapor than I thought.

Back in the 90’s when the economy was booming, airplanes were flying like crazy - I was flying like crazy. Every thurs/fri night, then out again sun night/mon morning, there was a backlog of planes landing in NYC area airports.

Nowadays, I never see such a huge backlog. It used to be like a parade - you could sit and watch them 2 min apart sunday evenings, for hours, heading into the landing pattern at Newark (NJ) airport. Could see a lineup of landing lights in the distance. But nowadays, there’s never a line. A few here and there. And I’m aware of the different patterns, land to north/south, etc. I even note when I see planes landing to the south, then suddenly one keeps going straight south. Ah, I say, they just changed the pattern, that guy is going down to Old Bridge (I used to live there) and he’ll land to the north.

Today, there are much, much fewer flights landing at Newark in the “busy” times. A lot of jet traffic in NJ now is private jets to Teterboro and Morristown. I see a lot of them.

That’s why I find it curious that the cloud cover is far more today than back in the 90s - relative to the planes flying. Back then, you could easily see that the contrails formed high-level cloud cover on busy flying days, but you also had many days where skies were very clear.

Hmmm... I found a good link - it has an informative graphic about 1/2 down the page by Mick West site admin for the site:

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/how-much-water-is-there-in-jet-engine-exhaust.4018/

Now I think there’s an answer. We simply have a lot more moist air nowadays, as shown in his point A3 on the third graphic scenario.

So that answer leads to the question of why we have much more moist air. That leads me to wonder about any climate engineering going on related to producing the California drought. I can’ find the link, but I had found something explaining how those efforts were causing the weather patterns we see today.

Oh, as far as “poison” etc., in the exhaust, or the “chem” part of things, this, IMHO, would just be a result of additives in fuel.

If what happens in the medical industry also holds for the aviation fuel industry, what we would have is a effort with at least 2 layers. One would be the overt, published purpose of the additives (which I know are a small fraction of what’s in the fuel). The cleverness comes in only if one analyzes the full effects of the initial reactions and then follow-on reactions through the environment and eventual interactions with plants/animals/humans. But the original researchers on the public layer are not experts in those fields; they’re experts in jet fuel additives and jet engine functioning. All that needs to be done is “don’t make the connection” between the “diabolical” results and the additives.

It’s kind of the reverse game of, for example, the low-fat diet scam. In that scam, fat is portrayed as the bad thing and research is done to offer proof. No one follows through with thorough research on how dietary fats are normally used in the human body and what happens in the human body when dietary fats are removed from the diet. After all, if fats are bad for you - why would any researcher research the effects of decreased fat metabolism ? Certainly any such research could be simply drowned out by anti-fat research coupled with marketing TV bombardment of the sheeple, ubiquitous product labeling “low-fat”, etc. Fat makes you fat, it’s a simple catchy phrase that seems intuitive - if you eat fat, that fat you eat stays as fat it’s just now in your body. Sounds simple - but in reality the body’s metabolism does not work that way. It would fool most of the population.

For the jet fuel additives, all we need do is make sure they are small enough amounts that there’s no DIRECT effect on humans. Sort of like saying as long as you’re not breathing in jet exhaust directly all day you should be fine.

The “manipulators” may have worked backwards though... from an effect they wanted to produce in the environment, very simply, say, spreading a lot of a certain element into humans. Well, how can it get into the water or food supply they ask themselves ? Well, what molecules and reactions produce that element ?

It’s also probable that some bad scenarios are happened upon by the “manipulators” purely by accident, for example, they find out something they’re doing in their factories, spewing out as exhaust, etc., is causing a serious problem or potentially could. While they can’t just directly tell management to pollute, they could create a situation where the pollution was a byproduct of success for the factory, and just sort of turn a blind eye to the pollution until a few decades later it becomes a big deal when it is found out.

I’m thinking it would be just a side effect of what they’re actually working on.

Especially since they’re trying to promote the idea that “humans cause global warming”.

If it gets noticeably cooler - the sheeple will kind of discount that glo-bull warming chatter they hear.

But the “master-planners” might be ok with their GW hoax taking a little beating, since the cat is kind of out of the bag anyway !

We certainly can see a step-by-step plan to get less domestically produced food - and more inter-national trade for supply of food.

That is always what the “elites” like. By hammering the California agrigculture industry, they can get wholesalers and middlement in the U.S. to buy products from Mexico/Central Am/South Am., etc., and even other countries.

They have a long-term agenda of gutting the middle class in the US, with higher taxes, higher prices, lower wages.

Higher taxes is greatly fueled by government boondoggles.

“I NOTICE the weather EVERY day”

As an Air Force meteorologist I reported the surface, upper air, rawindsonde, and more observations and forecasts throughout a day. Evidently you failed to accurately identify and “NOTICE” what you thought you were observing.

“I certainly have a memory.”

A false memory of something you erroneously perceived and jumped to a wrong conclusion is still just a false memory.

“So far this year we have barely gotten over 70, about 3 or 4 days so far. “

Yeah, that’s called weather and climate. Weather and climate is in constant cyclical change, and you have many kinds of cycles with periods measured in years, decades, centuries, and much much longer. Generally speaking, we should see colder and cloudier trends in the Northern Hemisphere for another one or two more decades like the Dalton Minimum, assuming we are not entering into something more like the centuries long Maunder Minimum is sunspot cycles.

“A few years ago I began to notice high-alt haze in northern NJ skies. The past 3 years it has been, for the most part, a daily situation.”

Yes, decades long cycles in the weather patterns will do that. We’ve been seeing some warmer weather patterns in the Arctic Circle due to the shifting of the high latitude high pressure and low pressure systems shifting the wind patterns and the warm and cold air masses out of the positions seen since the 1970s and the early 1940s. That’s also why you also haven’t been seeing those Nor’easters in the New Jersey, New York, New England region in your lifetime as in centuries past.

“A few years ago I began to notice high-alt haze in northern NJ skies. The past 3 years it has been, for the most part, a daily situation.”

Looking at the GOES East - CONUS imagery shows exaggeration on your part, increased cloud cover due to the long-term changes in weather patterns, and the contribution of those long-term changes in the weather patterns towards making the air pollution problem worse in the region from New Jersey to Massachusetts. See the synoptic satellite imagery at:

GOES East - CONUS
http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/

“Smog does not rise to 30k feet and drift halfway around the world and still remain thick enough to create a clearly visible thin cloud cover.”

On the contrary, smog and many other forms of air pollution routinely have the capability of circulating up to a lower inversion layer or the Inversion layer at the Planetary Boundary layer (PBL), which depending on the latitude and season can be around 55,000, 60,000 or more feet in altitude. Photochemical smog can also form at high altitudes when a volcano, forest fires, Cumulonimbus, and/or other strong convective winds systems transport chemicals such as Sulfur dioxide to high altitudes and interact with sunlight.

There was an earlier story some years ago where it was being claimed that the industrial nations of the Northern Hemisphere was supposed to be responsible for increased air pollution, especially particulate pollution from smoke emissions. I refuted the claim using satellite photographs and scientific studies which demonstrated how the smoke was being produced by wood fires and grass fires in Sub-Saharan Africa and was then transported at high altitudes across the south Atlantic ocean to circulate over the South and Central Americas. The smoke in the atmosphere was plainly visible from the satellites, the Space Shuttle, and the International Space Station (ISS).

“Volcanic activity would only create high level haze when it happens, not on a daily basis for 3 years (and probably longer).”

The visible ash and particulates tend to settle out of the atmosphere rather quickly, but the Sulfur dioxide and certain other photo-reactive chemistries tend to be projected through the PBL and into the Stratosphere and even higher. Once these lighter gases get above the PBL, they can circulate around the planet for long periods of time and react to create and destroy Ozone in addition to producing a haze. So, you cannot discount the ability of the volcanic eruptions to exacerbate conditions predominantly created by changes in weather and climate.

“Sunspot activity would not create haze for 3 years daily.”

On the contrary, recent experiments appear to confirm that decreases in Sunspot activity allows more Cosmic rays to penetrate the Troposphere and create more water droplets to produce more water vapor haze at high altitudes.

“Sunspot activity would be even over the whole earth since the sun is 93 billion miles away from earth. Differences in ozone layer, etc., shift from time to time - the earth’s atmosphere is gaseous and in motion - over all the earth. The only possible explanation of 3 years of haze is cloud seeding of some sort, at 30k feet, upwind of the area in question.”

That is a false analysis and a false conclusion. There has to be water vapor available for the exposure to Cosmic rays to form the water droplets of the haze. As the eather and climate patterns alter the circulation of the air masses, they also move around the amount of water vapor content in those air masses. Increased Cosmic rays with water vapor at the right temperature range produces water droplets and perhaps high altitude haze; whereas the lack of one or more of those factors reduces the opportunities for such haze to form.

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