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I’m not expecting any self-awareness at this point, but here’s the simple breakdown:

1. In an effort to determine if you have any objectivity remaining in you regarding Apple, I ask the simple question, “Has Apple ever done anything wrong? Ever?”

2. You reply that you post negative articles on Apple all the time.

3. I categorically demonstrate through your own posts (last 10) that the only reason you post “negative” articles is to refute them and try and show Apple *hasn’t* done anything wrong.

4. Your response is to double down, even when you are demonstrably incorrect. (Example: The Italian tax issue. Apple has been cleared of nothing. They may be in the future, but - while the investigation has been completed - the decision to take them to trial or not has not been made. This is a fine example of how far gone you are: you take *Apple’s* statement regarding the matter as the conclusion. Apple said they have complied, therefore, they have complied. It remains to be seen if there will be a trial. Even if authorities decide NOT to bring it to trial, you can’t later claim you were right. It’s an example of you losing all objectivity and latching on to the corporate line without any consideration to the actual fact that the case is still open. http://investcorrectly.com/20150324/italy-finishes-apple-inc-aapl-investigation/)

This has nothing to do with my opinion of Apple or anyone else’s, so don’t bother to bring that up. This is not about FUD. This is about your complete mental inability to see fault in Apple under any circumstances. I know this won’t register with you because I think you are too far gone, but Apple has clearly become your sinless corporate god.

1. In an effort to determine if you have any objectivity remaining in you regarding Apple, I ask the simple question, “Has Apple ever done anything wrong? Ever?”

1. My answer is yes. You ignored that. . . and have every time I have said it, glossing over it. However, if there is an explanation for an article that is incorrectly citing history, I will correct it. YOU count that as being biased. That is being biased on the side of accuracy, YOU prefer the myths and inaccuracies that have been promulgated over the years that have been accepted as FACTS when they are not. I shoot them down with truth. You don't like your pet myths being de-mythologized. Sorry, but any true believer doesn't like his religion denied.

2. You reply that you post negative articles on Apple all the time.

2. See above. I have posted numerous negative articles about Apple. In fact, I had posted the one from Boy Genius Reports entitled "Apple just publicly acknowledged the mess it made with its Apple Watch roll out" (they really had not, but BGR reported a leaked internal memo that I had already posted earlier as somehow being a "pubic" admission), the same article you later used as an example as proof of the current threads validity, and as negative article, but some Anti-Apple hate Brigade member hit the abuse button on the article, and the Admin Moderator deleted the entire thread, with the comment "Using FR as a marketing tool for apple. Use your own website". obviously neither one of them had even bothered to READ THE ARTICLE to learn that it was a negative article about Apple and hardly "advertising" Apple products!

I even posted a vanity about the negative experience I was having after upgrading to iOS 8 on both my iPhone and iPad. . . but you missed that. I also honestly reported that not all other upgraders to iOS 8 were not experiencing the same problems I was experiencing.

However, lately I have not had to find and post negative articles about Apple because you anti-Apple people have been doing an excellent job of finding them and posting them. I do not discriminate against your articles and decline to ping the group to them, do I? No. But some of the Anti-Apple people who post those articles carefully avoid pinging me to them . . . and then complain later in the thread that I have NOT pinged the list.

Some of the anti-Apple brigade have attacked me for even doing pinging the list to "their" threads, accusing me of "calling my acolytes" to attack them and naysay to article. They look on my Pinging the Freepers who are interested in Apple as an ATTACK on them and the article. Patently absurd. They then proceed to attack ME for never posting negative articles and claiming they have to do it because I don't. If I comment factually on their article, rebutting it with links to proof, I am only a deluded mentally ill fanboi posting lies from sources equally deluded and mentally ill.

3. I categorically demonstrate through your own posts (last 10) that the only reason you post “negative” articles is to refute them and try and show Apple *hasn’t* done anything wrong.

i post articles because they are of interest to the members of the Ping list and for no other reason. If I have an opinion on the factuality of that article I will comment on it. I am entitled to an opinion and an editorial comment. This is a free forum to make comments.

You categorically demonstrated nothing except your ability to look at 10 of my own posts. . . to which I showed my comments were accurate. YOU disagreed with my take on the articles which is your right, but YOU do not want ME to have the right to comment or have an opinion at all. I stand by my opinion because I have experience, knowledge, and research to back up what I say. . . and that is proved by the evidence and links I post. I always EXPLAIN my position contrary to the opposition who merely throw myths and brickbats. You included. I have seen very few links backing your arguments. Can i make a mistake or be wrong? Yes. When I do or when I am wrong, I apologize or correct the error.

4. Your response is to double down, even when you are demonstrably incorrect.

4. Of course I back my own opinion. Do you think I would suddenly say, "Oh, my god, bolobaby, I don't know what I was talking about! I am a complete idiot! I am deluded and you are right in everything you say!"? This is a form of straw man you put up so that everyone can say, oh, look bolobaby is right! Swordmaker didn't agree that bolobaby was right! I have many life experiences that allow me to make judgements on these issues, reading between the lines and make conclusions. I bring them to bear on my editorial opinion commentary. I am NOT a news reporter on FreeRepublic and the standard is completely different.

If i hold Apple in a high esteem, and I do, it is based on my experience and knowledge of their past operations and ethics. Have they made bad decisions in the past? Yes. Have they made them for evil purposes? Not that I have seen. Has Steve Jobs acted like a jerk and rudely. You bet. Did he act illegally and dishonorably to his friends and suppliers in the past. No doubt about it. . . but he learned you don't do that and be trusted. Those were life lessons that made Jobs and Apple into an ethical, honest, and successful company.

If I hold Apple's products in high regard, and I do, it is because of 35 plus years of working on multiple computer platforms, and multiple phone systems, and the Apple gear is by far the best with the least problems I have worked with. My work is professional level with multiple businesses and mostly involves Windows.

You are not qualified to make a diagnosis my mental state. . . and again you are making a prolonged, complicated, insulting ad hominem attack on me for the purpose of denigrating me and my opinions. He who uses ad hominem loses the argument. As I told you, the members of the Ping list appreciate my commentary.

Did you even notice that another technically oriented Freeper JOINED the list because of my response to you, agreeing that I know what I am talking about?

YOU LOSE, Dr. Sigmund Arrogant Freud.

Have a good rest of the weekend.