Posted on 04/12/2015 7:41:10 AM PDT by kanawa
Christians to Gays: We'll Accept Your Business and Donate Your Money to 'Traditional Pro-Family Lobby'
While gay activists are attacking Christian bakeries and wedding planners and filing lawsuits to put them out of business because of their religious beliefs, a Catholic priest has come up with a simple solution that, if adopted nationally, likely could end much of the gay and left-wing offensive in this realm.
Simply, accept all business from gays and tell them that the money will be donated to a traditional pro-family lobby or organization. And if your business is catering, for instance, show up at the gay wedding wearing a Cross necklace, a Bible-pin on your lapel, and a Bible verse embroidered on your uniform that expresses your morality, such as Mark 10:6-7, "But at the beginning of creation God made them male and female. For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife."
As Fr. John Zuhlsdorf explains in his Apr. 2 blog post, "It’s time for everyone to calm down. We need a new approach. Think about this. When some homosexual couple comes to your Christian business for services at their immoral event, don’t panic. Go ahead and take their business!"
"Then explain what is going to happen next," says Fr. Z on his popular blog page.
"Tell them that the food and services will be just fine. And then inform them that all of the money that they pay for the services will be donated to a traditional pro-family lobby."
"If it is something like catering, where your employees have to be there to provide services, tell them that all your people will smile, be professional, and everyone of them will be wearing crucifixes and have the Holy Family embroidered on their uniforms," says Fr. Z.
"Then show them pictures of your uniforms," he writes. "When the truck pulls up, speakers will be playing Immaculate Mary. Show them the truck and play the music."
“Oh, you would be offended by that? I’m so sorry," notes Fr. Z. "You approached us because we are Christians. Right? We are happy to provide services for you and we are grateful that you chose to come to our Christian catering business. We just want to be of help.”
The priest continued, "Then tell them that you will take out an ad in the paper to let everyone know what you did with their money, thanking them by name for their business so that you could make the contribution."
"I suspect this approach, if adopted far and wide, would put an end to attacks on Christian businesses," said Fr. Z.
Fr. John Zuhlsdorf is a Catholic priest of the diocese of Velletri-Segni, which is a diocese in Italy close to Rome, headed by Bishop Vincenzo Apicella. Fr. Zuhlsdorf was ordained a priest by St. Pope John Paul II in 1991.
Fr. Zuhlsdorf currently resides in Madison, Wisc., where he serves as president of the Tridentine Mass Society of the Diocese of Madison, under Bishop Robert C. Morlino.
A business has limitations on how much service they can supply at any given time.
“we’re booked, sorry” The flood would be a trickle.
Perhaps the charities or groups receiving money from this
could donate some of their time allowing the owner to accept more work.
Regardless every business has a limit where they have to start refusing work.
Businesses generally serve a limited geographic area.
Take Walkerton for instance, a small town.
How many homosexuals live there and are planning to get ‘married’?
Another factor that needs to be considered is the innate cheapness of these activists.
They are fine on the protest line because many have no jobs
but when it comes to reaching into their own pockets, adios amigo! :)
According to some, seeking an alternative to public crucification indicates impure thought. For them, a simple question: what course do you currently counsel as a response? For those who call it unwise to "lobby" for religious freedom: what course do you propose? In case it slipped by your awareness, governments have said you can't object to providing a service on any grounds, much less religious.
Sodomactivists have created a no-lose situation for themselves...which leaves a no-win situation for believing businesspeople. To those who decry the impurity of any course but signing over the title to your home and mailing the signature card for your checking account to the lawyer... What's your alternative?
This is political jujitsu and it will work, brilliantly.
You have just accurately described the position of Memories Pizza.
I’ve tried over and over to get this through the thick heads of the lynch mob
looking to cruxify the O’Conners for hating ‘gays’
when nothing could be further from the truth.
That’s apples and oranges. The baking/catering issue isn’t life or death, for starters.
The Soddomists don't care what "we" do...you can assert your first amendment rights as you please, but as a florist here in Washington State can attest...you will lose your business and your home. No "giving in" required on your part.
Seriously...have you been following the issue?
I am not inviting these people into my life. I am not adding them to my Christmas card list or having them over for dinner. I am providing a product. The same product others who are opposed to my views get, just because I don’t know they are opposed to my views.
How hypocritical is it to provide a cake for a Wiccan service, but not a gay one? Both are vile in my eyes. By providing a product I am not “endorsing” anything. And since I believe in a supernatural God, who does answer my prayers, I will be covering many more people in prayer than I ever could any other way.
Yes, I’m aware of that story. Just because that was the outcome doesn’t mean it was the right outcome and I suspect it won’t be the end of the story.
I guess you didn’t read the verse?
Far more supernatural entities in existence than God; they of course are not God. And as Jesus noted, those who follow Him will have tribulation in this world.
There is certainly Biblical precedence for treating the faith of other Christians with respect, Romans 14 bears that out (and I believe it to be fine justification for reapproachment between Protestants and Catholics), Colossians 2:16 echos that but comes from the perspective of those being so judged. It appears to me then, that you should be fully persuaded that what you are doing is the right approach since disagreeing believers are told to be tolerant of one another’s walk.
Therefore if you feel led to treat homosexual wedding festivities as a mission field, you should do it, but not insist that others do the same. God dealt with Jonah, he can just as easily deal with any of us!
Right; the Apostles were ninjas and won over the Roman political system by so-called “political ju-jutsu”.
Sounds like too many self-professed Christians are making their businesses their idol.
The approach Fr. Z. outlines would only pass legal examination if you do exactly the same thing for ALL of your customers. You would probably get feedback from your regular customers that they prefer not to have their names or any personal information published by their caterer. And you wouldn’t have any profits if you donate all of them so you might not get very far in your business career.
What does that mean?
Tell that to Barronelle Stutzman, who faces losing her business and her home. For her, it's not an academic question.
Apples and pineapples.
Since it is being touted as a solution (while surrendering First Amendment rights without a real fight—rights given not by man, take note), it is apples and apples.
And is it not one’s eternal life brought into question, frankly?
How can it be considered unrighteousness Mammon ( money ) when it is a ligitimate business ?
What about the money these business owners get from non-gay costumers ?
Have you ever gotten a refund check from the government ?
Any money from the government is unrighteousness mammon.
Any money you get from a big corporate bank who steals money from the poor people with excessive interest rates is unrighteousness mammon.
;~)
The word “God” does not appear in your post that I replied to. I saw the word “government”, though.
Sorry, I would have to disagree, it’s their livelihood to support their families.
Some say money isn’t everything, fine then, try to pay bills without money and you will find your self out on the
Street shortly.
These people have to make a living to eat, for shelter, for cloths.
There is no dishonor in the sight of God having a ligitimate business.
Even Jesus talked about taking talents then investing those talents to produce more talents.
Try to go without money for a few months and see what happens.
The bible says that the man who does not work does not eat.
The bible has a lot to say about lazy people, and slothfulness.
There is no dishonor for those Christians who own and run a ligitimate business, God honors those people..
Taking a voul of proverty is not for everyone, God expects everyone to work, unless your disable or can retire on the money you have after you have worked a whole life time.
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