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Iceland Stuns Banks: Plans To Take Back The Power To Create Money
Zero Hedge ^ | 4-1-15 | Raul Ilargi Meijer

Posted on 04/02/2015 7:10:35 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion

Who knew that the revolution would start with those radical Icelanders? It does, though. One Frosti Sigurjonsson, a lawmaker from the ruling Progress Party, issued a report today that suggests taking the power to create money away from commercial banks, and hand it to the central bank and, ultimately, Parliament.

Can’t see commercial banks in the western world be too happy with this. They must be contemplating wiping the island nation off the map. If accepted in the Iceland parliament , the plan would change the game in a very radical way. It would be successful too, because there is no bigger scourge on our economies than commercial banks creating money and then securitizing and selling off the loans they just created the money (credit) with.

Everyone, with the possible exception of Paul Krugman, understands why this is a very sound idea. Agence France Presse reports:

Iceland Looks At Ending Boom And Bust With Radical Money Plan

Iceland’s government is considering a revolutionary monetary proposal – removing the power of commercial banks to create money and handing it to the central bank. The proposal, which would be a turnaround in the history of modern finance, was part of a report written by a lawmaker from the ruling centrist Progress Party, Frosti Sigurjonsson, entitled “A better monetary system for Iceland”.

“The findings will be an important contribution to the upcoming discussion, here and elsewhere, on money creation and monetary policy,” Prime Minister Sigmundur David Gunnlaugsson said. The report, commissioned by the premier, is aimed at putting an end to a monetary system in place through a slew of financial crises, including the latest one in 2008.

According to a study by four central bankers, the country has had “over 20 instances of financial crises of different types” since 1875, with “six serious multiple financial crisis episodes occurring every 15 years on average”. Mr Sigurjonsson said the problem each time arose from ballooning credit during a strong economic cycle.

He argued the central bank was unable to contain the credit boom, allowing inflation to rise and sparking exaggerated risk-taking and speculation, the threat of bank collapse and costly state interventions. In Iceland, as in other modern market economies, the central bank controls the creation of banknotes and coins but not the creation of all money, which occurs as soon as a commercial bank offers a line of credit. The central bank can only try to influence the money supply with its monetary policy tools.

Under the so-called Sovereign Money proposal, the country’s central bank would become the only creator of money. “Crucially, the power to create money is kept separate from the power to decide how that new money is used,” Mr Sigurjonsson wrote in the proposal. “As with the state budget, the parliament will debate the government’s proposal for allocation of new money,” he wrote.

Banks would continue to manage accounts and payments, and would serve as intermediaries between savers and lenders. Mr Sigurjonsson, a businessman and economist, was one of the masterminds behind Iceland’s household debt relief programme launched in May 2014 and aimed at helping the many Icelanders whose finances were strangled by inflation-indexed mortgages signed before the 2008 financial crisis.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
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To: Talisker

Do cops really arrest you if you don’t pay back a loan? I thought we gave up debtors’ prison a couple decades ago.


21 posted on 04/02/2015 8:02:51 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Toddsterpatriot

You live for posts like this.


22 posted on 04/02/2015 8:06:25 PM PDT by Fungi (Evolution: no science, no truth, no nothing. Full of faith, faith in the "god" of chance.)
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To: crusher2013
They loan out many times the amount of deposited money.

No they don't. Every loan is fully funded.

Thus creating money out of nothing.

Nope. Can't happen.

23 posted on 04/02/2015 8:07:12 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Sherman Logan
They take deposits and loan out a multiple of them.

Impossible. Fractional reserve means they hold a fraction of deposits. Which means they loan less than their deposits, not multiples.

In the US the reserve requirements range from 3% to 10%. So the money lent is 10x to 30x that deposited.

Nope. Loans would be 90%-97% of deposits, using your numbers.

I really don't understand this stuff.

I know.

24 posted on 04/02/2015 8:09:58 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: eyeamok
You should study how our monetary system really works, NO DEPOSITS are EVER Loaned,

I have, they are.

All Loans are funded with Freshly Created Credit

Sure. Until the loan check clears. Then that freshly created credit has to be covered by actual reserves (deposits) at the Fed.

Honest people call it Theft.

Confused people call it that.

25 posted on 04/02/2015 8:12:59 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Banker gangsters rank right up there with govt gangsters. Who to trust?


26 posted on 04/02/2015 8:13:36 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: oldbrowser

BINGO.....


27 posted on 04/02/2015 8:15:05 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: Talisker
Imagine having ten bucks and being able to loan out $300 in credit to other people while charging them interest on that imaginary money.

You could try that. After the first $10 in loan checks clears, your bouncing loan checks will put you out of business....and probably in jail.

That's literally what banks do.

LOL! Hilarious!

28 posted on 04/02/2015 8:17:30 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Fungi

Lots of idiocy for me to point out.


29 posted on 04/02/2015 8:20:20 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Please account for the progress of time and the flow of money in your analysis.


30 posted on 04/02/2015 8:21:30 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: Sherman Logan
"But is giving this power to the central government any kind of solution?"

Voters have a little control over government, if they'll take it. Where gangsters control a treasury, the people have no control at all.


31 posted on 04/02/2015 8:21:46 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: stevio
I’ll have to wait for someone I trust to explain this to me. This financial world bank stuff makes my head spin.

Money vs Currency - Hidden Secrets Of Money Ep 1 - Mike Maloney

Start with this youtube video and watch the rest of the series.

32 posted on 04/02/2015 8:22:44 PM PDT by Stentor ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.")
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To: Sherman Logan
So what happens when banks can only loan deposits, or possibly a fraction of them?

It's called modern banking.

33 posted on 04/02/2015 8:23:22 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

What are you waiting for?


34 posted on 04/02/2015 8:24:23 PM PDT by Fungi (Evolution: no science, no truth, no nothing. Full of faith, faith in the "god" of chance.)
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To: Paladin2
A bank takes in a $10 deposit. A customer borrows $10. The check clears, the money leaves the banks account at the Fed.

The next loan check is received at the Fed, with no available funds to clear it. It bounces. So do all of the following loan checks.

The bank is seized by the FDIC.

35 posted on 04/02/2015 8:27:19 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Fungi

Comprehension to dawn......


36 posted on 04/02/2015 8:28:16 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
They take deposits and loan out a portion of them.

If you don't know that's not true you're a dumbass. The reserve requirement is a maximum of 10%. Some countries have no reserve requirements. Since when is 9x a portion? What is your purpose in disseminating misinformation?

37 posted on 04/02/2015 8:29:38 PM PDT by Stentor ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.")
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Some of the loan proceeds hit a bank somewhere where some fraction is available to fund a further loan. Dynamics are involved here


38 posted on 04/02/2015 8:29:41 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: Fungi

“Our central bank, the privately held “federal reserve” has always had that power, printing fiat money then charging interest on it. How does that change anything in the case of Iceland?”

All Iceland is doing is what the rest of the world already does: vests the power to create fiat currency in the hands of a central bank that is a creature of the state. Same thing U.S. does now.

To claim what Iceland is contemplating doing is stunning, revolutionary, etc. is just plain stupidity on the part of the author, who apparently is completely clueless.


39 posted on 04/02/2015 8:29:52 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

My point exactly. Thank you.


40 posted on 04/02/2015 8:30:43 PM PDT by Fungi (Evolution: no science, no truth, no nothing. Full of faith, faith in the "god" of chance.)
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